'LIKELY VOTERS' Abandon Romney: POLL REPORT

[tomm2thumbs]

Last edited Tue Sep 11, 2012, 10:25 AM - Edit history (1)

You may see some 'other' polls out there in the news that say that Obama is losing with Likely Voters. I think this video, from yesterday (Mon) tells the real story of what is going on. Not only did the poll cover LIKELY voters, versus registered voters, but it also covered a great deal of detailed analysis, revealing:

A six point national lead - of LIKELY VOTERS - a more powerful figure in comparisons.

Obama moves way up with men - a jump of a full 5 points to actually lead Romney now
Obama soars with a 20 point lead as 'candidate most in touch with middle class' - a jump of 8 points
Obama builds up to a 7 point lead 'candidate who most shares your values' - a jump of 4 points

The only area the President doesn't lead or tie Romney on is dealing with the deficit, but Barack Obama now leads on handling foreign policy, medicare, dealing with health care, handling of taxes, yes TAXES, and then ties with Romney on the handling of the economy -- yes, in a down economy Romney can't even manage a win over Obama on that issue after months of campaigning.

I know a lot of Republican folks who are claiming things are closer than they appear in the race to motivate themselves, but I think the momentum, the excitement, the genuine belief and enthusiasm for one's candidate is SOARING with the Democrats, and there is nothing like bursting the GOP's enthusiasm bubble than to pile on just a little more facts and figures that show they are dropping like sandbags from the political air balloon. One by one, folks are cutting lose and moving from Romney, either voting Democratic, not voting at all or turning to a Libertarian option, or write in.

This is the second election in a row that the GOP will have lost running extreme and to the far right -- and these self-inflicted wounds are not going to be easy to heal as the Republican Party starts to fall apart and turn on itself to blame one faction or another.

All I can say is it couldn't happen to a nicer ticket!

Now we just need to continue to bolster enthusiasm, get folks registered, get out the vote and support down-ticket races. It ain't over, but sure feels good to know the wind is working with you when so much money is being thrown at you!

[Frances]

1. could not agree more, tomm2thumbs

We need to keep working for Obama, but we also need to work for a Dem congress! It will be more awful right wing blocking of Obama's economic plans (and judicial appointees) if we don't have a Dem congress.

[oldhippydude]

2. This is the second election in a row ?

despite the slight hyperbole.... excellent news

[tomm2thumbs]

5. oh yea

shhhh, or someone will inquire about my time travel machine

[oldhippydude]

7. the knowledge of said machine..

is the only thing keeping me from being a super snark....lol

[tomm2thumbs]

9. somehow I knew you'd say that

heh heh heh

[oldhippydude]

18. not long ago.... i got nailed concerning kerrys loss in 2000

sometimes there is a glitch between my head and my typing fingers..

[Courtesy Flush]

3. I don't understand the deficit part

Romney wants to continue cutting taxes, which blew up the deficit in the first place. WTF?

[Jamaal510]

13. It's all lies.

He knows that won't work, but he wants the extra tax cuts for himself and knows that his dumb base still believes the trickle-down myth.

[progree]

15. Here's an explanation. Hope it Helps <g>

All he does is tell you he's going to cut tax rates 20% and other tax breaks that together will cost $5 trillion over a decade, increase core defense spending $2 trillion over a decade, and have balanced budgets -- yeah right, Mr. Wizard. He won't give us even a hint how he might make all this happen, what tax deductions and tax credits he's going to eliminate etc. No wonder Newsweek did a "Wimp Factor" cover story on him. Massachusetts under Mr. Wizard was 47th in job creation and first in per-capita debt. While the U.S. as a whole had 5% growth, Romney's Massachusetts grew 0.9%. And it had a decline in real median income (this amazing feat was accomplished during the housing boom years too -- he was governor from Jan. 2003 to Jan. 2007). And you have no idea what Governor Etch-a-Sketch will do as president as he changes his positions radically depending on what campaign he's running...

And now this - he was for RomneyCare before he was against it. He was against ObamaCare before he was for the most important parts of it... now his spokesman says not quite then offers a clarification that makes no sense ...

Mitt Robme - Dodged the draft in France. Keeps his money in Switzerland. Sends American jobs to China. Because he loves this country SO DAMNED MUCH! Can't trust Robme on anything..he laughs at every question..what an idiot..cant wait for November bye bye mitt u....

[lin_e65]

4. And we need to think longterm.....

Sometimes it's easier to deal with Republicans who are so extreme-at least they show their true colors. Look at the likes of Scott Walker who sneak in (along with a GOP house and senate) and create havoc to state. Voters need to vet their candidates better.

It will be interesting to see if donors will continue to give to Romney if he continues to slide. His money could dry up in a few weeks and you won't see him donating any of his own.

If the democrats can take the house and keep the senate and devastate the GOP, then we might see a new faction taking over. The problem is, there is a faction of the GOP that lives in a virtual reality-no matter what the people vote for or think, they know what's better for the country-ala Boehner, Cantor and McConnell. We need to rid this country of those guys by voting them out. Even if their elections are close, that would send a message to them to think twice.

Democrats need to plan and organize and change culture. We have had 30 years of this trickle down BS, a whole generation, and we need to help people understand that this is not the norm! Until we can do that, this country can not move forward. In a world of instant messaging this process is not going to quick-one person at a time. That's why our responsibility does not stop at the voting booth.

After this election? The next thing is the constitutional amendment-corporations are not people!

[socialindependocrat]

6. Is this a mix up - help please

One by one, folks are cutting lose and moving from either voting Democratic, not voting at all or turning to a Libertarian option, or write in.

They are supposed to be moving from voting Republican

and

moving to voting all these other options - right?

I keep reading it and it doesn't jive with the article - abandoning Romney

[tomm2thumbs]

8. thanks

I had dropped the word Romney in there - added it back in

[tomm2thumbs]

10. Laura Ingraham Trashes Romney for Trailing in Polls

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/ingraham-trashes-romney-camp-for-trailing-in-the-polls-should-be-up-by-five-six-points/

Telling FoxNews that the Romney campaign has no excuse for being behind in the polls in this economic environment, Laura noted that comments from Romney’s staffers asking supporters to ignore the polls reminds her of 2006, when Republicans lost control of Congress.

Yes, the infighting and circular firing squads are coming early this year --

[socialindependocrat]

20. Also said, if they loose they need to trash to party and start over

Isn't this great!

It's like sitting in a tree watching the Keystone cops
running around like chickens with their heads cut off.

They are so scared that they won't be able to control
everybody that they are going to drive themselves nuts.

What goes around, comes around!
They have blocked the Pres for 3 years.
Now they have gotten so stupid that they
are going to loose and election even when
historic indicators say they should be ahead.

Bye, bye lice!

Now, we can hope that the get so frenzied that they keep making stupid statements and try stupid maneouvers so they dig themselves in deeper.

[MsPithy]

11. Danger, danger, danger!

The old white rapepublican billionaires will switch their mega-donations from Romney to Senate races.

[Chipper Chat]

12. We should do the same.

Senate races in Missouri, Indiana, Montana,etc are soooo close. Help is needed. Obama coattails + money could give us the Senate 55-45. Then Harry could invoke the nuclear option and maybe, finally, something could get done.

[beac]

16. Agreed. We have to remain vigilant on ALL fronts and

not let any good news cause us to let down our guard. Keeping the Senate is as important as retaining the White House.

[eggplant]

14. It's all about the downticket races now.

We have to get out the vote. Hopefully, all the R's will stay home.

[SunSeeker]

17. Caution: ABC/Post poll shows only 1-point Obama lead among likely voters.

"The latest Post/ABC poll, conducted nationwide Sept. 7 to Sept. 9, finds Obama leading Republican nominee Mitt Romney by 6 percentage points (50 percent to 44 percent) among a random sample of 826 Americans who said they are registered to vote. That result represents a net 7-point gain for the president since the previous Post/ABC poll conducted just before the two party conventions, when Romney had a 1-point edge over Obama (47 percent to 46 percent) among registered voters.

Among 710 respondents deemed most likely to vote, however, the new Post/ABC poll continues to show a near tie, with 49 percent for Obama and 48 percent for Romney."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/11/presidential-polls-2012_n_1873550.html

Yes, it is WAY better to be where we're at than where Romney's at, but this is no time to get complacent!

[Ian62]

19. Naming Paul Ryan as VP was a major gaffe by Romney

It helps get out the Democrat vote, much more than it does GOP.

It does nothing to help Romney win toss up states (except a tiny bit for Wisconsin - for all the rest, Ryan is a hindrance not a help to Romney).
Ryan's healthcare vouchers are a disaster for Romney in swing states.

Ryan has the same dumbass views on "legitimate rape" and abortion and the chances of being impregnated from rape as Akin.
I am surprised Obama hasn't played this up more so far.
The extreme similarity of views on rape and abortion between Paul Ryan and Akin.

Maybe Obama is biding his time.
If the controversy over Akin does die down a bit, he can re-ignite it by comparing Ryan with Akin.
That is a smart approach. Obama is a smart tactician.
Like dragging out the tax returns issue and keeping it bubbling with slightly different angles and stories. That is smart tactics too. That one will run until Nov 6th now and hurt Romney, whatever Romney does.

Say Romney had picked Rubio instead, it would have been far less helpful to Dems.
Rubio would have helped Romney in Florida, not hindered him like Ryan with his healthcare "vouchers".

Romney is a complete dumbass - nothing new there.
Dumbass policies.
Dumbass budget.
Dumbass views.
Dumbass tactics.
Dumbass track record of zero job creation.
Dumbass track record as Ma Governor, 47th worst Governor out of 50 during his tenure.
Dumbass rule changes in Tampa and alienating a significant number of his potential actvists. It worsens his ground game.

The momentum is firmly with Obama.
Even the money being raised has now swung Obama's way, when it has been Romney raising more cash for the last 3 months.

And we haven't even got to the debates starting October 3rd.
Smart Obama is going to crucify dumbass Romney.
Romney is just empty rhetoric and absolutely no substance.
He also cannot think on his feet like Obama, Romney is going to make all sorts of gaffes.
Looking forward to that one

[tomm2thumbs]

21. good post and can't wait until the debates as well

My best guess is they are going to fill him up with 'gotcha lines' for maximum impact, but he'll probably end up missing the punchlines and sounding like a complete dolt

Probably going to end up looking like Godfather's Pizza Herman Cain, getting so full of facts and figures that he can't separate one from another, like a bowl full of sticky spaghetti and his hands covered in flypaper

He may try to talk his way over answering anything concretely, but we'll see. At some point, he tends to cave when pressed to put an answer out. Whether the moderator or Obama puts the pressure on is going to be the question, but hopefully it'll come

[progree]

22. How much Obama and the Dem Party raises v. Repubs - trivial compared to as Superpacs and 501(c)'s

The big money is the amount the SuperPacs and especially the 501(c)'s - trade associations like the Chamber of Commerce and the American Petroleum Institute -- to name two out of many -- spend much more.

Never Mind Super PACs: How Big Business Is Buying the Election - The Nation, 8/29/12
http://www.thenation.com/article/169639/never-mind-super-pacs-how-big-business-buying-election

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/501(c)_organization

I believe it is a crime against humanity for the media to report on candidate and party fund-raising results and totally not mention the SuperPacs and the 501(c)'s, particulary 501(c)(4) and 501(c)(6)'s.