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ABSOLUTELY NOT!! Trump's DOJ Seeks Power to Suspend Your Constitutional Rights During "Emergencies!" (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2020 OP
Hell no drray23 Mar 2020 #1
Remember Bush's post 9/11 Patriot Act? procon Mar 2020 #2
I wonder where the libertarians are on this policy move???? alwaysinasnit Mar 2020 #3
Remember Bush's post 9/11 Patriot Act? procon Mar 2020 #4
I am so incredibly shocked! Newest Reality Mar 2020 #5
Flattening the curve Nature Man Mar 2020 #6
That's not what they're going for here. TDale313 Mar 2020 #8
Important to note: TDale313 Mar 2020 #7
Then herr barr should be given more "civil disobedience" than he could ever imagine. n/t MarcA Mar 2020 #9

drray23

(7,634 posts)
1. Hell no
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 02:47 PM
Mar 2020

He would use it to jail journalists and political opponents claiming they are a threat to national security. Just like his boss Putin.


procon

(15,805 posts)
2. Remember Bush's post 9/11 Patriot Act?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:05 PM
Mar 2020

That legislation took away many if our Constitutional rights under the claim of national security interests. People were scared, the politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike (I think there was only a couple of them who voted against this extraordinary power grab) were clamoring to pass this bill and the media was on their side.

So we got indefinite detentions of immigrants; blanket permission for law enforcement to search anything without the owner's consent or or even knowledge. They gave the FBI free access to everyone's personal data without a court order.

Thankfully there were several legal challenges to the Patriot Act and courts ruled many of its provisions were unconstitutional.

So we've already been there-done that and it didn't turn out too well, let's not do a repeat.

procon

(15,805 posts)
4. Remember Bush's post 9/11 Patriot Act?
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:07 PM
Mar 2020

That legislation took away many if our Constitutional rights under the claim of national security interests. People were scared, the politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike (I think there was only a couple of them who voted against this extraordinary power grab) were clamoring to pass this bill and the media was on their side.

So we got indefinite detentions of immigrants; blanket permission for law enforcement to search anything without the owner's consent or or even knowledge. They gave the FBI free access to everyone's personal data without a court order.

Thankfully there were several legal challenges to the Patriot Act and courts ruled many of its provisions were unconstitutional.

So we've already been there-done that and it didn't turn out too well, let's not do a repeat.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
5. I am so incredibly shocked!
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:17 PM
Mar 2020

This was always in the works and I have been seeing it coming.

Now, let's see how much push comes to shove and if any checks and balances have any traction anymore.

Slippery slopes are slippery. Watch your footing.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
8. That's not what they're going for here.
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:26 PM
Mar 2020

They want the right to jail people without due process in times of national emergency, including those caused by civil disobedience.

TDale313

(7,820 posts)
7. Important to note:
Mon Mar 23, 2020, 03:24 PM
Mar 2020

This isn’t about this emergency, it’s asking for these powers in times of a national emergency. It’s asking for the right to jail people without due process, and it specifically mentions national emergencies caused by “civil disobedience”

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