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drray23
(7,634 posts)He would use it to jail journalists and political opponents claiming they are a threat to national security. Just like his boss Putin.
procon
(15,805 posts)That legislation took away many if our Constitutional rights under the claim of national security interests. People were scared, the politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike (I think there was only a couple of them who voted against this extraordinary power grab) were clamoring to pass this bill and the media was on their side.
So we got indefinite detentions of immigrants; blanket permission for law enforcement to search anything without the owner's consent or or even knowledge. They gave the FBI free access to everyone's personal data without a court order.
Thankfully there were several legal challenges to the Patriot Act and courts ruled many of its provisions were unconstitutional.
So we've already been there-done that and it didn't turn out too well, let's not do a repeat.
alwaysinasnit
(5,066 posts)procon
(15,805 posts)That legislation took away many if our Constitutional rights under the claim of national security interests. People were scared, the politicians, Republicans and Democrats alike (I think there was only a couple of them who voted against this extraordinary power grab) were clamoring to pass this bill and the media was on their side.
So we got indefinite detentions of immigrants; blanket permission for law enforcement to search anything without the owner's consent or or even knowledge. They gave the FBI free access to everyone's personal data without a court order.
Thankfully there were several legal challenges to the Patriot Act and courts ruled many of its provisions were unconstitutional.
So we've already been there-done that and it didn't turn out too well, let's not do a repeat.
Newest Reality
(12,712 posts)This was always in the works and I have been seeing it coming.
Now, let's see how much push comes to shove and if any checks and balances have any traction anymore.
Slippery slopes are slippery. Watch your footing.
Nature Man
(869 posts)requires suspension of civil liberties to compel people to stay home under penalty.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)They want the right to jail people without due process in times of national emergency, including those caused by civil disobedience.
TDale313
(7,820 posts)This isnt about this emergency, its asking for these powers in times of a national emergency. Its asking for the right to jail people without due process, and it specifically mentions national emergencies caused by civil disobedience