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grantcart

(53,061 posts)
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 06:33 PM Sep 2012

Pirated video from Romney fundraiser shows how far far far out of touch he is;

There are so many levels on this. First the gullibility of Romney accepting the Chinese factory owners explanation of barbed wire walls and guards, his lack of empathy for what they were going thru and his willingness to do business with people exploiting workers like this and then there is how he believes that all Americans have it easy and if they aren't doing well its because they are lazy.

If the American people vote for him after they see this, then they deserve everything that will happen to them.

Its painful to watch.


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Pirated video from Romney fundraiser shows how far far far out of touch he is; (Original Post) grantcart Sep 2012 OP
Willard ........ the Great American Liar and Fraud Angry Dragon Sep 2012 #1
huh heaven05 Sep 2012 #2
At the end of the video it says "$50,000" per.... 6502 Sep 2012 #3
Another option is a worker at the event. glowing Sep 2012 #5
Good point... 6502 Sep 2012 #8
perhaps you notice the 'workers' quietly scurrying around serving the 1%ers,. Civilization2 Sep 2012 #7
Well well..... Swede Atlanta Sep 2012 #4
Fences and guard towers to keep people out? Horse puckey! Citizen Worker Sep 2012 #6
He can't possibly be THAT stupid! BattyDem Sep 2012 #10
Wow Grantcart ~ awesome K and R! goclark Sep 2012 #9
Dessert lobodons Sep 2012 #11
And he went there to buy one of these factories... Swagman Sep 2012 #12
A lot of girls were burned to death oldbanjo Sep 2012 #13
Factories lock their employees in because they are paranoid about petty theft of the workers. like a grantcart Sep 2012 #16
Triangle Shirt Waste Facdtory? jerseyjack Sep 2012 #18
I think there is a certain proportion of the 1% who get off on poverty porn renate Sep 2012 #14
Getting off on poverty porn may be part of the reason pacalo Sep 2012 #17
poverty porn user who also has a leaveraged debt fetish. grantcart Sep 2012 #20
I wonder what it is, exactly, Rmoney thinks we are sharing with the world? Aldo Leopold Sep 2012 #15
This is on my favorites johnlucas Sep 2012 #19

6502

(249 posts)
3. At the end of the video it says "$50,000" per....
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 07:28 PM
Sep 2012

... person event.

That would suggest that the person that got in had to have $50,000 of backing to get in.

My theory:

Most progressive organizations do not have that kind of money to use to infiltrate anything like this.
The person taking the video could be

1. a right-winger who wanted to just take a sneak video for themself...
2. a friend of a right-winger whose tab was paid for who took the sneak video...
3. a progressive with that kind of money who took the video themself....

I have been and still am #2.

For years, I have had a friend who is a mega-1%-er.... like 0.1%-er, actually.
I got to know him over here in Japan.
I got to know him at a time when I had no idea he was one.

Even here... in the land of the rising sun (and national health insurance)... they have the same 1%-ers with the same mentality.

They don't want to pay into the national health insurance system.
They don't want to pay into their equivalent of social security.
They don't want to pay the taxes that provides the very infrastructure that allows business to flow in the first place.
They don't want to pay into unemployment insurance.
They hire people as contract workers or part-timers en-mas so as not to hire them as real employees to avoid paying into anything that supports the social contract. (Hire someone as a full-timer here and they have to pay... sounds familiar?)

He complains about not being able to attract multilingual staff...
I ask him about the cost of rents and food and whatnot in his area.
He knows all of the details off of the top of his head.
And then I ask him if he thinks that someone could afford to do more than just subsist on that pay, considering that just to find the job he's posting, they would have needed to already be paying for a mobile phone and mobile phone contract as well as need their own computer and internet access just to apply.

Even after factoring all of that in, he still insists that he needs a solution that would allow him to pay the low wage and get what he wants.

Even when I make points about the benefits of paying enough so that the workers can be active customers affording not just his products, but others... he seems to get it... then weeks later has totally forgotten. Then I am back to square one again.

But he is my friend.
And sometimes, he brings me along into his world.

A world of tax dodgers.
People who want to pay the lowest wages possible regardless of the costs.
People who see any contribution to society on their part as a burden to them.

But... I get to sit with him.
And talk with these people.

And it scares me to the core.

* The same thing happened to me in Latin America... I got to sit and talk with the upper class 0.1%-ers there. Because of the contact that introduced me to them, they opened up and explained to me the blueprint for how I could open a company in their country producing textile products, have the [pro-business] government allow it to be set up in a tax-free zone, how many guards to hire, what kinds of fencing, what kind of security detail, how many hours you could work people, how little you could pay, how much you could charge American purchasers, how much profit, on and on... I smiled and was polite... the maids of course served the meals... as they served the food and drink, I would always thank them... my host told me that I did not need to thank them.

I often wish I was deft enough to have a camera running... but I am just not that good.


 

glowing

(12,233 posts)
5. Another option is a worker at the event.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 07:51 PM
Sep 2012

The wealthy overlook their "help" all the time... Like they aren't smart enough or bright enough to turn on their iPhone camera and record their idiocity.

6502

(249 posts)
8. Good point...
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 08:11 PM
Sep 2012

... this fellow has asked me to come and work for him a number of times.

If I had taken him up on an offer, I would be "the help" attending the function, but still the same person I always was.

Heck, when I look back at my post, I now realize that in Latin America, that this man was saying all of this to me in front of the maids.

Now I could imagine the maids telling the story to their family and friends about what their boss told his American guest.

 

Civilization2

(649 posts)
7. perhaps you notice the 'workers' quietly scurrying around serving the 1%ers,.
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 08:02 PM
Sep 2012

I assume one of them stuck the camera on a shelf to record the 'event',.

to quote the classics; "We cook your meals. We haul your trash. We connect your calls. We drive your ambulances. We guard you while you sleep. Do not fck with us."

 

Swede Atlanta

(3,596 posts)
4. Well well.....
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 07:31 PM
Sep 2012

If in fact people were really trying to "get in", then the state of China is indeed dismal... if people are clamoring to get essentially slave labor jobs just for a roof over their head and maybe some rice and fish gruel.

If in fact people don't clamor to get in and these fences are to keep them as political prisoners (which I expect), this is just as bad.

Bottom line, for Robme to be talking about this in polite company as some kind of tribute to what? Capitalism? Slavery? I just don't get him.

I think more and more Americans realize they don't get him either....

Go Obama Go!!!!

goclark

(30,404 posts)
9. Wow Grantcart ~ awesome K and R!
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 08:38 PM
Sep 2012

This really nails him ~ I was surprised that he was more relaxed when talking to the 1%.

He is still a sociopath but this shows his true colors.

oldbanjo

(690 posts)
13. A lot of girls were burned to death
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:29 PM
Sep 2012

a few days ago and the doors were locked and the windows had bars, that was not to keep people out, it was to keep these girls in and it cost them their lives.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
16. Factories lock their employees in because they are paranoid about petty theft of the workers. like a
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 10:43 PM
Sep 2012

small hammer or a roll of toilet paper.

It is a distressingly common experience.

renate

(13,776 posts)
14. I think there is a certain proportion of the 1% who get off on poverty porn
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:34 PM
Sep 2012

Those of us on the left are glued to our seats by descriptions of conditions like these because they are horrifying and wrong and we don't feel that ignorance about these things is bliss.

But some of the 1%--and I really don't believe they all feel like this, but I think a certain proportion do--like to hear about them because they reinforce the "there but for the grace of God go I" (one of the most repellent sentiments imaginable) feeling they have of being special. As if they need to hear about people living in inhuman conditions to remind themselves of how lucky they are.

I wonder what the minimum-wage waiters at that event thought about all these rich people paying $50,000 to hear about how Chinese workers need to be kept out of those brutal factories with barbed wire.

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
17. Getting off on poverty porn may be part of the reason
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 11:20 PM
Sep 2012

he chose to speak about it, but I strongly suspect it was a salesman's pitch for sending more American jobs to China.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
20. poverty porn user who also has a leaveraged debt fetish.
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 06:45 PM
Sep 2012

All he needs is some toe sucking and we have hit rock bottom

Aldo Leopold

(685 posts)
15. I wonder what it is, exactly, Rmoney thinks we are sharing with the world?
Sat Sep 15, 2012, 09:41 PM
Sep 2012

I also wonder what the shadowy "Bain partner" meant when he said 95% of life is settled if you're born in America. My first thought was he means 'pity it's so much harder to achieve this kind of worker imprisonment in America'.

Wow, what an upsetting video! Thanks for posting!

 

johnlucas

(1,250 posts)
19. This is on my favorites
Sun Sep 16, 2012, 02:37 AM
Sep 2012

The rich are evil by & large.
Individuals may be different but the whole of those people is evil.
You HAVE to be when you are beyond comfortable & you can overlook everyone else who suffers.
To be able to talk about them so matter of fact & dismissively.

There was no anger in his voice that the Chinese workers had to go through conditions like that just to have some semblance of quality of life.
There was nothing that compelled him to want to correct that situation with all of his financial power.
It was just Poverty Porn as other posters on this thread have already said.

Oooh look at the little poor people. Aren't they quaint?

Humanity will never get to its next ascension until it does away with the concept of money.
Money by its very design creates poverty.
It's a ZERO-SUM game. Don't let anybody tell you any different.

For some to be rich somebody else has to be poor in the money system.
John Lucas

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