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Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 04:31 AM Jan 2021

Governors Outraged By More Trump Admin Vaccine Supply Lies; Biden Unveils New Plan - Rachel Maddow



Rachel Maddow reports on the anger many governors are expressing at the Trump administration after an announcement of the release of more Covid-19 vaccine turned out to be false, and share highlights from President-elect Joe Biden's new plan to get the stumbling vaccine program back on track. Aired on 01/15/2021.


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Governors Outraged By More Trump Admin Vaccine Supply Lies; Biden Unveils New Plan - Rachel Maddow (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jan 2021 OP
Did they empty the supply to enrich themselves or were they lying about the stockpiles? LiberalBrooke Jan 2021 #1
My take on this was that they have no idea what they're doing on a national level Rhiannon12866 Jan 2021 #2
Sorry, But No ProfessorGAC Jan 2021 #7
K&R nam78_two Jan 2021 #3
Heard HHS azar spout on NBC news. Polished lies. empedocles Jan 2021 #4
Is there any way to confirm that Trump's Feds didn't get a shipment of vaccines? Baitball Blogger Jan 2021 #5
K&R. TexasTowelie Jan 2021 #6

LiberalBrooke

(527 posts)
1. Did they empty the supply to enrich themselves or were they lying about the stockpiles?
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:51 AM
Jan 2021

I think the vaccines went somewhere to get money and/or bribe people.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
2. My take on this was that they have no idea what they're doing on a national level
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 05:57 AM
Jan 2021

And we know that they've lied about everything since the beginning - want to take credit for things they haven't done. We will eventually get to the bottom of all this, meanwhile people continue to get sick and many more are dying.

ProfessorGAC

(65,076 posts)
7. Sorry, But No
Sun Jan 17, 2021, 07:46 PM
Jan 2021

The "reserve" never existed. They lied about the existence of those doses.
The total in circulation right now is within 2% of what Pfizer & Moderna forecasted for mid-January.
They're just now getting to 48% of total projected throughput.
The didn't sell any off, because it didn't exist.
They fooled a lot of people with that promise.
But, most of the manufacturer forecast statements were public, and I have modest inside information about scale-up progress. It was easy to see that the "release the reserve" statements were lies. There was no reserve.
The professionals running the process never overestimated their production capability.
Eventually, both companies project more than 3 million doses a day. (There are, of course, other countries needing it.)
Frankly, the fact that they are closing in on a 10 day average of a million doses a day is incredible in a matter of 6 to 8 weeks.

Baitball Blogger

(46,735 posts)
5. Is there any way to confirm that Trump's Feds didn't get a shipment of vaccines?
Sat Jan 16, 2021, 12:06 PM
Jan 2021

We all know how they feel about THEIR stockpiles. Thanks to Kushner.

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