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Evangelical prophets predicted that Trump would win in 2020, and after pushing back the date that this would come to pass all the way to the inauguration date, they're still doubling down. Watch televangelist Sid Roth double down on a failed prophecy. Watch Pastor Greg Locke freak out and Kat Kerr have a screaming meltdown. Hank Kunneman, Lance Wallnau, Mario Marillo, and Dutch Sheets hedge and make excuses as to why the prophecy failed on the Victory Channel's show Flashpoint with Gene Bailey.
Even the prophets of YouTube, Albert Milton and Chris Yoon, make some pretty spectacular failed prophecies and then shift the goalposts on the failed Trump prophecy. Everyone from Eric Metaxas to Curt Landry, and Kenneth Copeland was invested in the prophetic claim that Trump would win a second term in 2020, and all of them got it spectacularly wrong.
Squinch
(51,049 posts)thucythucy
(8,097 posts)Imagine believing (or trying to convince others to believe) that you have a personal hot line to the entity that supposedly rules the entire universe.
That's got to be about ten steps beyond simple narcissism.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)... argue amongst themselves regarding which one is the TRUE prophet (profit?)
thucythucy
(8,097 posts)It stars Peter O'Toole and it's amazing, though a tad on the long side.
There's a scene where something like that happens. Peter O'Toole plays a paranoid schizophrenic who believes he's Jesus Christ. Another character is convinced he's "The God of Electricity" or something like that. Their psychiatrist brings them together to argue it out. Spoiler alert: it doesn't end well.
"The Ruling Class" is one of the darkest comedies ever, and was quite controversial back in the day. And O'Toole, as usual, is superb. I'd watch him in anything.
Bernardo de La Paz
(49,047 posts)thucythucy
(8,097 posts)The mendacity, the pathos, the absolute refusal to accept reality--how are we to work around these people?
Add to it all the abysmal ignorance of history--the one "prophet" claiming that John Quincy Adams served two terms, the other "prophet" comparing Biden's win to Hitler invading Poland. In that case, if you follow the analogy he was making to its logical conclusion, what he's saying is he and his fellow "prophets" were the ones appeasing Nazism, which is the closest any of these charlatans come to the truth.
We had people like this in the town where i grew up. I never imagined they'd thrive to the extent they have, and come so close to their dream of turning this nation over to a Christo-fascist regime.
It's sad too how many vulnerable people fall for this claptrap.
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)thucythucy
(8,097 posts)I run into this in the disability community from time to time. Just one instance--a friend who was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis, whose disease was progressing so that he knew he would eventually lose his ability to walk.
A Jesus group latched onto him and convinced him if he prayed with them (and gave them all his money) God would cure his disease.
Of course it didn't work. When that failed he found another cult--this one preaching some "Eastern" philosophy--instead of praying it was a chant he needed to repeat. Oh, and also, give us your money.
When none of this worked he was told it was his fault--his faith wasn't strong enough, his prayers weren't acceptable, and oh yes, he hadn't given them enough of his money.
It's understandable that people facing their own mortality will grasp at any straw. What's contemptable is how many people there are out there willing to exploit that desperation for their own gain.
Denvermosaic
(120 posts)safeinOhio
(32,736 posts)"Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing but inwardly are ravenous wolves."
NurseJackie
(42,862 posts)New International Version
20 But a prophet who presumes to speak in my name anything I have not commanded, or a prophet who speaks in the name of other gods, is to be put to death.
21 You may say to yourselves, How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the Lord? 22 If what a prophet proclaims in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true, that is a message the Lord has not spoken. That prophet has spoken presumptuously, so do not be alarmed.
llashram
(6,265 posts)one of these kkkhristian clowns or others help kill Officer Sicknick?
Mr. Sparkle
(2,950 posts)who profit from the poor and misfortunate. I would love to see the feds go after them, to end their scams.
panfluteman
(2,073 posts)As the gospels say: Ecce Homo (Behold the man): He's a total POS - not just according to the Christian religion but also according to every major world religion there is!
But perhaps religion here is just being used to cloak naked racism, then things start to make a lot more sense. For all his spiritual, moral and governing policy failures, Trump has but one redeeming virtue - if you're a racist, that is - at least he's white.
Hulk
(6,699 posts)I was baptized and raised Catholic, and the fundamentals of my religious faith are based in that history. But I no longer believe or practice the mythical nonsense and doctrine from the spin meisters from the Vatican nut farm.
These butt holes are a part of the reason I no longer practice my faith in an organized church. There are Catholic priests and bishops just as fucked in the head as these phony hypocrites. I really hope there is a hell after this life they can spend eternity keeping warm down there (realizing thats just as crazy as the crap that comes out of their mouths.😈
yuiyoshida
(41,867 posts)THEY wanta ever lasting leader, a dictator who would govern over them for life. Maybe they should pick a nice nation with a dictator to see how lovely it is to live under one. Not in my country, you wont!