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The Hennepin County Medical Center doctor who treated Floyd and declared him dead last May testified that he believed Floyd likely died of asphyxia.
Dr. Bradford Langenfeld, an emergency medicine physician, said he treated Floyd for about 30 minutes on May 25, 2020, as hospital staff unsuccessfully tried to restart his heart. Based on what paramedics reported and on Floyd's medical condition, Langenfeld said the "more likely possibility" of Floyd's cardiac arrest was hypoxia, or lack of oxygen.
Warpy
(111,359 posts)But no one at the scene reported any signs of fentanyl overdose, and you can bet the EMTs looked at his pupils, first thing.
A PEA (pulseless electrical activity) arrest means there was a trace on the heart monitor, the electrical activity was there, but the muscles were incapable of pumping any blood out to his body. Causes can be mechanical, like massive blood loss, fluid around the heart, blood clots in the lungs. It can also be chemical, hypoxia starves the muscles so they can no longer contract and causes a buildup of acid in the blood.
I hope the cross examination asked for a description of the symptoms of a fentanyl overdose. Someone who had gone totally limp at the scene wouldn't have needed a burly cop kneeling on his neck for nine minutes and he wouldn't have been capable of too many complaints about not being able to breathe, he'd have lost consciousness very quickly.
In fact, this went on so long that by the time Mr. Floyd finally got to the hospital, there was no hope. Even if a cardiac surgeon had been right there to crack his chest and mechanically massage his heart, the muscles by then had been too badly damaged to save and there would have been massive brain damage.
Playing the drug card is not going to change the essential facts in this case: now matter what sort of trace amounts of psychoactive substances Mr. Floyd had in his blood, his cause of death was positional asphyxia, slow strangulation by a cop.
Ilsa
(61,698 posts)explaining it to a jury.
Warpy
(111,359 posts)I've been out of the trenches for some time now.
I just hope someone is consulting with the defense on this. So far I have no clue whether or not the pertinent questions were asked.
If not, they're going to let that murderous asshole's lawyer play the dope card, something that should not be allowed.
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)or was it 9 minutes and 14 seconds?
Fentanyl didn't cause George Floyd's dead.
Hypoxia--lack of oxygen--brought on by Chauvin's knee on his neck did. But for Chauvin putting Floyd in back seat of the car, handcuffed, then dragging him out the other side and putting his knee on the man's neck as he lie prostrate crying for his mama in heaven, Floyd would be alive.
Show the video over and over and over. Zoom in on Chauvin as he stares down the crowd (of a dozen), daring anyone to stop him. He enjoyed what he was doing, and it was deliberate.
3catwoman3
(24,054 posts)...pockets.
Ohioboy
(3,248 posts)Since there was a knee on his neck the whole time, Floyd really didn't have a chance to overdose or do anything else to cause his own death between the time he called out to his mother and he died. I find it hard to believe that all the cops involved in his death weren't charged the day it happened.