Derek Chauvin Says He Deserves Probation Instead Of Prison Because 'The System Is Broken' - ROF

[Rhiannon12866]

Convicted murderer Derek Chauvin is asking the courts to give him probation and time served instead of sending him to prison because, as Chauvin's team put it, "the system is broken." The system is indeed broken, but not because Chauvin was convicted - it is all of the other murderous cops who got away with it that prove that the system is broken. Had there not been video evidence of Chauvin's actions, he likely wouldn't be headed to jail, and THAT is how broken our system is. Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins discusses this.

[PoliticAverse]

1. "The system is broken - police are getting away with murder!". n/t

[Rhiannon12866]

2. Exactly!

[JenniferJuniper]

3. and I should too!

[pwb]

4. What does Chauvin think cops should be allowed a couple murders each?

[Jim__]

5. If the judge gives Chauvin a light sentence, it means that even a jury conviction of a cop ...

... does not stand up. We need serious reform of the police. But, at the very least, they - the police - need to know that they will be imprisoned for murder.

[LakeArenal]

6. Guys like him broke the system. Now he's a victim.

[sheshe2]

7. We know it is broken...the likes of you break it more everyday.

You nonchalantly knelt on Floyd's neck for over 9 minutes. You knew what you were doing. You knew he was dying. A life sentence is not long enough for the likes of you.

Scared? You should be, I hear cops are not treated well in prison.

[Rhiannon12866]

11. He sees himself as a "victim" since he got caught!

It was only because that young girl was brave enough to persist in taking a video that the evidence was incontrovertible. So many other victims of police violence remain without legal retribution. We all know the names. Chauvin is just angry and contesting the fairness of his solid conviction because he got caught.

[marble falls]

8. Chauvin added, "You don't really expect me to serve time with murderers and thugs, do you?"

[sheshe2]

14. You are a murderer and a thug.

You can live with your own.

[marble falls]

15. My thought entirely. He needs to do his time and STFU.

[sheshe2]

16. Such a big bad hombre.

Fearless while kneeling on a man's neck, one who was handcuffed and face down with two others on his back and legs. Now he is a frightened little man as he will be on his own now.

[brewens]

9. He's right about the system being broken. He should be working an average Joe job

somewhere and keeping his mouth shut about ever having been a cop and why he's not one any more. That's what could have happened if they would have fired his ass after the first few incidents, if not sooner. But no one made him do any of that.

[markpkessinger]

10. It's a terrible brief, BUT . . .

. . . I object to calling the lawyer a horrible person for pursing an aggressive defense of his client. Ours is an adversarial justice system, for better or for ill, and any lawyer who does not pursue the most aggressive defense of his client is failing to live up to his or her ethical and professional obligation.

The fact that the worst criminals in ouir country are entitled to an aggressive defense isi the ONLY guarantee that you or I have that WE will be entitled to an aggressive defense in the event we are ever charged, rightly or wrongly with a crime.

It was this kind of thinking that led to some of the worst aspects of the Patriot Act.

Howl do such lawyers sleep at night, you ask? They sleep knowing that by providing an aggressive defense to their client, they are protecting not only their client's, but all of our right to such a defense in court. They sleep knowing that even with an aggressive defense, most defendants are up against lavishly funded prosecutors whose resources are limited only by the state's desire to limit them. They sleep knowing that the justice system is already heavily weighted in favor of the prosecution. And this iss all true whether their client is actually guilty or not, and it remains true even when a particular defendant is especially unpopular.

[Blue Owl]

12. Fuck that murdering sack of shit

[MiniMe]

13. It's not fair, they should have warned me first that I could get in trouble for killing somebody.

Waah

[global1]

17. George Floyd Says He Should Be Alive Today ....

but - the system is broken.

You know Chauvin - maybe the system should be fixed. In the meantime you deserve to be in prison.

[Permanut]

18. Okay, then, so the same logic applies to other murderers..

like Gary Ridgway the Green River killer. Should let him out because the system is broken.

[Aussie105]

19. The system really is broken . . .

The Police system that is.

The training, the camaraderie, the group ethos is that of thugs in uniform.
The feeling that violence towards civilians is a good thing, warranted, any reason will do, easily explained away with a shrug of the shoulders and a catchphrase like 'I was fearful for my own safety'.
Even if the civilian un cooperatively dies in the process, bystanders un cooperatively video the unwarranted and excessive police violence, and the legal system un cooperatively holds a thug in uniform responsible.

(But I'm sure some of them are very nice people . . .)

Rest assured Derek, locking you up is a small step in fixing the system. The system of police brutality, that is.

[soldierant]

20. I often have niys to pick with Farron ... but not today.

[SandWalker]

21. Uhh Derek ?

Your broken.

[cab67]

22. I'm reminded of an old Monty Python sketch.

The police bust into a room to arrest someone.

The person they're arresting says, "Yes, I did it - but society's to blame!"

"Alright," one of the cops says, "we'll arrest them instead." And they proceed to put everyone except the criminal in cuffs.

[AZ8theist]

23. Chauvin claims "the system is broken"????

"cause" ....meet "reason"....