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IronLionZion

(45,541 posts)
3. GOP wants a poor desperate service class
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 09:36 AM
Jun 2021

they love having low income service workers who are required to be polite in hopes they won't lose tip money. Lower tips can easily stop them from being able to fully pay their rent or daycare bills that month, let alone groceries or health care.

ShazamIam

(2,575 posts)
6. I believe that tipping, which removes all dignity of work, should be abolished for
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 10:17 AM
Jun 2021

that reason. I have been shocked that tipped workers want to keep it, most never having had a fully benefited job, do not know the long term consequences of serving for gratuities only.

There are so many negatives for tipped workers, such as employer theft of the tip money, the fact that some people do not tip, (I hate the practice but tip at 20%). And while multimillionaires can avoid taxes, the IRS targets tipped workers for audits.


appalachiablue

(41,177 posts)
7. Agree & sad that many workers don't know better..
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 10:37 AM
Jun 2021

- Herman Caine's Enduring Lobbying Triumph Has Kept Restaurant Workers Poor for Decades, $2.13, (MoJo, 2020)

.. America’s first minimum-wage law, passed by Congress in 1938, allowed states to set a lower wage for tipped workers, but it wasn’t until the ’60s that labor advocates persuaded Congress to adopt a federal tipped minimum wage that increased in tandem with the regular minimum wage.

In 1996, former Godfather’s Pizza CEO Herman Cain, who was then head of the National Restaurant Association, helped convince a Republican-led Congress to decouple the two wages. The tipped minimum has been stuck at $2.13 ever since...

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/07/herman-cains-enduring-lobbying-triumph/



- Herman Cain, then-president of the National Restaurant Association, enjoys a plate of nachos at a restaurant in 1998.

ShazamIam

(2,575 posts)
8. Interesting about Herman Cain and disturbing at many levels,
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 11:01 AM
Jun 2021

There are other examples, Sowell, Carson, etc. Hard to respect such capitulation, but in reality while those are used to diss POC for betrayal. Are we to believe that these examples legitimize the exploitation?

Conservatives, in the U.S. it means Republican, want a grossly underpaid and subservient, near starving, servant class.

paleotn

(17,989 posts)
10. Seems every group has a few...
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 11:05 AM
Jun 2021

who would gladly sell out their fellows for a buck. The Jewish Ghetto Police in WW2 come to mind. Every group has a subset of sociopaths.

ShazamIam

(2,575 posts)
12. Like self loathing billionaire and gay Peter Theil supporting the most extreme right wingers,
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 11:35 AM
Jun 2021

the ones who want to return to laws specifically criminalizing being LGTBQ.

appalachiablue

(41,177 posts)
13. That plus libertarian, German-born Theil
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 08:33 PM
Jun 2021

thinks women shouldn't have got the vote and more. A Trump supporter, employer of JD Vance, the Silicon sellout 'Hillbilly Elegy' book guy who's planning to run for something in Ohio. What a wreck and self loathing is right..

ancianita

(36,137 posts)
5. Two Waffle Houses I stopped at in KY and GA had big hiring signs at entrances,
Fri Jun 18, 2021, 10:14 AM
Jun 2021

offering only $11.25 an hour. A lot of sweeping goin' on. Haven't been in one in at least 10-15 years, but saw that austerity beat down seems to have had a sad effect on wait staff, who showed forced cheer and sharp vigilance with customers while cooks showed surly boredom. In the GA one, some rotund redneck walked in talking loud about Holocaust numbers. I quickly ate, left a 50% tip and exited. I could be wrong about the air of those places and not know the local temperatment, but it will be a long time before I go into another.

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