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trailmonkee

(2,681 posts)
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:30 PM Oct 2012

TYT: Harvard Educated Neurosurgeon Says He Experienced The Afterlife



Published on Oct 13, 2012 by TheYoungTurks

"Dr Eben Alexander, a Harvard-educated neurosurgeon, fell into a coma for seven days in 2008 after contracting meningitis.

During his illness Dr Alexander says that the part of his brain which controls human thought and emotion "shut down" and that he then experienced "something so profound that it gave me a scientific reason to believe in consciousness after death." In an essay for American magazine Newsweek, which he wrote to promote his book Proof of Heaven, Dr Alexander says he was met by a beautiful blue-eyed woman in a "place of clouds, big fluffy pink-white ones" and "shimmering beings".* Cenk Uygur, Ana Kasparian, Dave Koller, and Steve Oh discuss the idea of the afterlife and what the doctor may have experienced.
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TYT: Harvard Educated Neurosurgeon Says He Experienced The Afterlife (Original Post) trailmonkee Oct 2012 OP
dudes out to make a buck ..... rsweets Oct 2012 #1
You are consciousness. Can never lose it... bjobotts Oct 2012 #11
As someone who has experienced ICU psychosis (a benign form) brought on by sleep deprivation, CTyankee Oct 2012 #2
this man's story is familiar to me and he had a disease happen to him that has a survival roguevalley Oct 2012 #12
I met a talking rock. Warren Stupidity Oct 2012 #3
Must have been one heckuva dream... Archae Oct 2012 #4
The blue eyes alone make the vision seem to be a tblue37 Oct 2012 #5
Nonesense and-justice-for-all Oct 2012 #6
Folks- DryHump Oct 2012 #7
+1! Surya Gayatri Oct 2012 #8
+2 Shanti Mama Oct 2012 #14
eloquently spoken by.....DryHump Skittles Oct 2012 #15
LOL Cali_Democrat Oct 2012 #16
Whether or not it's real, sulphurdunn Oct 2012 #9
I'm open to this. A similar experience has been reported by many people.... Honeycombe8 Oct 2012 #10
If my cats are not in heaven, I want to go where they went. 1620rock Oct 2012 #13

rsweets

(307 posts)
1. dudes out to make a buck .....
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:49 PM
Oct 2012

near death here 2 weeks ago,
heart attack defib ...from the looks of it
I was nearer to death than this dude ...

his whole thing just rubs me wrong ..

by the way ...
my doctor said i could write a book now ..

having been there it would just be wrong ...

 

bjobotts

(9,141 posts)
11. You are consciousness. Can never lose it...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:44 PM
Oct 2012

Jesus said "The kingdom of God will not appear with signs saying Lo it is there or here. For the kingdom of God is in the midst of you".

For those who expect the 'after life' to be a place I disagree. You are consciousness and using this body or brain to express consciousness. The body and brain may give out but consciousness never dies. It returns to the source from which it came..the formless being...the Presence of Being...not in some "form" place like a heaven. It is all in your consciousness which is not separate from the Source which both contains and sustains it.

TYT kept referring to it as a place...an object...a thing but words cannot express Isness. We can only get a sense of it at this level of Being.
You don't have a life...you are life. Having a life is context but saying you are life is Being and cannot be defined. TYT should get outside the box on this one.

CTyankee

(63,912 posts)
2. As someone who has experienced ICU psychosis (a benign form) brought on by sleep deprivation,
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:49 PM
Oct 2012

I have new respect for the power of the brain to be altered and to induce hallucinations, which is what I had and I remember them vividly, altho I did not hallucinate going to heaven.

I personally think that there is a deep seated desire in humans to experience all enveloping love. something about being human has this core longing...hard to explain what I mean but you get my drift...

roguevalley

(40,656 posts)
12. this man's story is familiar to me and he had a disease happen to him that has a survival
Sun Oct 14, 2012, 12:13 AM
Oct 2012

rate of about 4%. His brain was soaked in pus and no one expected him to live let alone get his full consciousness back. He was on life support at the point of being unplugged. I had a near death experience and if you never had one then you can't know. There are people who have had them and everyone else. This man has one of the most baffling medical conditions on the books for NDE and I believe him. I had one. I know its easier to mock and make fun. One of the things that NDE people feel afterwards beyond incredible love for everyone and a lack of fear of death is the simple truth that we don't care if you don't believe. All of us will face death at some point, others sooner than some. Some of us already have this way which I consider an incredible blessing for me. I won't fear when it comes and I could not say that before. Take care out there. Truly.

CTyankee, you are right about the core longing. The biggest problem humans have is loneliness and a great sadness about being unloved. That longing comes from perfection which we all came from IMHO. It is there and we forgot it in this mortal body. We will get it back someday. I felt it. My mother was there. It sustains me through anything.

 

Warren Stupidity

(48,181 posts)
3. I met a talking rock.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:50 PM
Oct 2012

Of course i was as high as a kite on shrooms at the time, but it seemed quite real. I wonder how the doctor knows if his experience didnt happen on the way into his shut down, or the way out? How exactly could this entirely internal experience be correlated with external events? How does he know that this experience wasn't simply assembled form the jumble made by his illness?

There have been actual controlled experiments studying near death out of body experiences, and they have all failed to establish any valid evidence for these events.

DryHump

(199 posts)
7. Folks-
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 05:10 PM
Oct 2012

- the doctor describes the Yogic experience of the Self - the experience of your own being as eternal, infinite consciousness. Don't dismiss this as unreal. Meditate and find out for yourself.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
10. I'm open to this. A similar experience has been reported by many people....
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 08:14 PM
Oct 2012

and there is no proof it did not happen. So, I remain open to this. And wouldn't it be great if it were true?

I'm a facts kinda person. There's testimony of something ephemeral, and no facts to indicate otherwise...therefore, it MAY be true. There is, after all, eyewitness evidence of it.

Maybe it's not true. But I'm open to it. I hope it's true. And I hope all my former pets are there. And Mom.

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