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Rhiannon12866

(205,492 posts)
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 11:05 PM Aug 2021

New Yorker Editor: Not Possible To Evacuate All US Allies From Afghanistan By Aug 31st - MSNBC



NewYorker.com executive editor David Rohde, former senior advisor to Defense Secretary Ash Carter, Mark Jacobson, and NBC News’ Pentagon reporter Courtney Kube break down the complicated logistics of evacuating US allies and citizens out of Afghanistan. Aired on 08/23/2021.


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New Yorker Editor: Not Possible To Evacuate All US Allies From Afghanistan By Aug 31st - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 OP
Let's give Biden some room. He said he would do this, I know others have said not. PortTack Aug 2021 #1
Senator Chris Murphy - and a few others - have suggested we could call their bluff and stay longer Rhiannon12866 Aug 2021 #2
We should do that. Taliban can suck their date. OAITW r.2.0 Aug 2021 #4
The original date WE agreed to was May 1 . . . . markpkessinger Aug 2021 #5
That is the first time I have heard the number of 300,000 Bev54 Aug 2021 #3

PortTack

(32,778 posts)
1. Let's give Biden some room. He said he would do this, I know others have said not.
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 11:07 PM
Aug 2021

They are air lifting no out approx 9k a day...that’s a lot of ppl

Rhiannon12866

(205,492 posts)
2. Senator Chris Murphy - and a few others - have suggested we could call their bluff and stay longer
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 11:13 PM
Aug 2021

But I agree that we've made substantial progress, bringing in commercial airlines will certainly help a lot.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,504 posts)
4. We should do that. Taliban can suck their date.
Mon Aug 23, 2021, 11:24 PM
Aug 2021

We have a lotta fire power left to make this bad news for the incoming government. We take the time necessary and if the Taliban wants to complain, oh well.

markpkessinger

(8,401 posts)
5. The original date WE agreed to was May 1 . . . .
Tue Aug 24, 2021, 07:19 PM
Aug 2021

. . . And we agreed to that in exchange for the Taliban ceasing attacks on American troops. Biden has already pushed the envelope by extending it to August 31, but so far, the Taliban have continued to honor their agreement. But the President knows that if the Taliban perceives the U.S. to be dragging its feet on the withdrawal, they will abandon the Doha Agreement, and will resume attacks on U.S. troops. That would require Biden to commit still more troops to the effort, and the whole, sorry mess would continue until God knows when!

It was never "their date." May 1 was the date mutually agreed upon by U.S. and Taliban negotiators. And what you don't seem to understand is that we have lost this war, and thus are in no position to say "the Taliban can suck theier date." Nor can Biden unilaterally ignore the Doha agreement, because whether we leave now or five years from now, our exit will require negotiations with the Taliban, whether we like it or not. Reneging on the Doha Agreement would render any and all future negotiations with the Taliban impossible.

As for our "fire power," even with that, there are only about 3,500 troops in Afghanistan, and there are an estimated 70,000 to 100,000 Taliban fighters. So no, we can't make "bad news for the incoming government" unless we are prepared to commit to a continued, protracted engagement!

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