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Related: About this forumThe Business Plot To Overthrow FDR, 1933-34: Gen. Smedley Butler - Not A 'Hoax'
- By all accounts, General Smedley Butler was a national hero. So when he told Congress that a group of businessmen were perilously close to overthrowing the US government, lawmakers took him seriously.
'Wealthy bankers & businessmen plotted to overthrow FDR. A retired general foiled it.', Wash Post, 1/13/21.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2021/01/13/fdr-roosevelt-coup-business-plot/
The consternation had been growing in the months between Franklin D. Roosevelts election and his inauguration, but his elimination of the gold standard in April 1933 infuriated some of the countrys wealthiest men. Titans of banking and business worried that if U.S. currency wasnt backed by gold, inflation could skyrocket and make their millions worthless. Why, they could end up as poor as most everyone else was during the Great Depression.
So, according to the sworn congressional testimony of a retired general, they decided to overthrow the government and install a dictator who was more business friendly. After all, they reasoned, that had been working well in Italy. How close this fascist cabal got, and who exactly was in on it, are still subjects of historical debate. But as the dust settles after the pro-Trump attack on the U.S. Capitol, and as it becomes clearer how close lawmakers came to catastrophe, the similarities to the Business Plot are hard to ignore.
The nation has never been at a potential brink as it was then up until, I think, now, said Sally Denton, author of the book The Plots against the President: FDR, A Nation in Crisis, and the Rise of the American Right. Smedley D. Butler was a highly decorated Marine Corps general who had received the Medal of Honor twice. He was beloved by his men before his retirement, and more so afterward when he spoke in support of the Bonus Armys fight for early bonus payments for World War I service.
He was wildly popular and was an outspoken critic of fascism and Mussolini at a time when there was really an impulse toward that throughout the world, including in the United States, Denton said. Given his opposition to fascism, Butler might not have seemed like a good fit for the job of coup leader, but his support from veterans was more important to the Wall Street plotters. At the time, there were many more veterans than active-duty service members; if someone could summon them as a force of 500,000 to march on Washington, the government could fall without a shot being fired...
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- American Liberty League, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Liberty_League
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appalachiablue
(41,054 posts)hlthe2b
(101,730 posts)so few know even the most recent history, much less that of decades or centuries in the past it seems.
I only wish we could identify today's Gen. Smedley Butler.
appalachiablue
(41,054 posts)a degree in history but never knew of this travesty until 12 years ago. My parents spoke of the Depression, FDR and history but not this, buried in the news.
hlthe2b
(101,730 posts)My grandfather met him in the 1930s.
appalachiablue
(41,054 posts)dad was a WWI vet and my dad WWII. They must have known of Butler.
TheRealNorth
(9,435 posts)My guess is Butler smoked the traitors out before it could be put into action. Unfortunately, nothing on their treason could be proven.
appalachiablue
(41,054 posts)War Is A Racket came out in 1936. Trash rumors of nervous breakdown. There are those who believe that FDR held onto the conspirators names and info. in case of future issues.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 13, 2021, 07:10 PM - Edit history (1)
across the nation!
Newspapers almost everywhere, followed that dismissive, not hardly worth mentioning, line.
[Edit] 'the news media dismissed the plot, with New York Times editorial characterizing it as a ''gigantic hoax''.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smedley_Butler
brush
(53,475 posts)Last edited Mon Sep 13, 2021, 04:49 PM - Edit history (2)
was composed of many prominent Americans whose family names included Bush (Prescott), duPont, Sloan (GM) Hal Roach of Hollywood fame, and others.
Gen. Butler pretended to go along with them and word got to FDR who threatened to exposed them publicly to help get his New Deal programs passed.
Gen. Butler, the author of "War is a Racket" was certainly a hero.
appalachiablue
(41,054 posts)brush
(53,475 posts)that previous coup attempt.
2Gingersnaps
(1,000 posts)from any Texas middle and high school history book. Senator Christopher Dodd's father was Ambassador to Germany at the time, he caught wind of the conspiracy in Germany. FDR also had issues with Fred Koch, father of Charles and David Koch. Their fortune was built on building oil refineries for Stalin and Hitler. The four Koch sons were raised by a Nanny who was a hard core Nazi sympathizer. Fred Koch said that the only "strong nations in the world were Germany, Italy, and Japan." Fred Koch was also one of the 11 founding members of the John Birch Society. Not surprising that they have pored money into undermining our Constitutional Republic.
appalachiablue
(41,054 posts)with Fred Koch, or that the sons had a Nazi nanny. Awful group, two brothers tried to blackmail their gay sibling to get his stock shares and investments. Low as they go.