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Sat Sep 18, 2021, 04:08 AM

George Will On How Trumpism Became Republican Dogma - The 11th Hour - MSNBC



Veteran conservative columnist and thinker George Will joins MSNBC's Brian Williams to discuss how Trumpism - not conservatism - became the prevailing principle of the modern Republican Party. Aired on 09/17/2021.


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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:42 AM

1. When George Will named Tom Cotton as the ideal conservative, that told me just how demented

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #1)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:48 AM

3. Good Grief! He truly is one of the worst!

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Reply #3)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 08:47 AM

6. It is unfortunate, maybe intentional that they cut that part of the interview off. Will commented

on this near the end of the interview with 90 seconds left:

Williams: You said to Andrea Mitchell today, and I am paraphrasing, if one man can change public life for the worse, I don't think we need to name names, that also means that one man can change change it for the better. I heard that, and I was briefly filled with hope, how about a couple of nominations, anyone come to mind?

Will: Sure, there is Ben Sasse, there are a number of Governors, I think Tom Cotton is someone who could step forward, and say what needs to be said to a nation which is weary of being weary.

When George will put Tom Cotton in the list of people he though couldt lead the republican party out of trumpism, that told me no amount of insufferable intellectual embellishment that George Will may try to paint as "reasonableness", in the end he is quite extreme.

I have that recorded so I was able to verbatim transcribe that.

During that interview, he was also throwing out the "both sides do it" argument, and Brian Williams was also playing up with that also.

That false equivalency isn't even close.

Bill Maher was spewing the same "both sides do it" nonesense. What was humorous on Maher's show was when he was arguing how the rich pay more than their fair share of taxes. When someone on the panel commented on Jeff Bezos not paying his fair share, Maher in his usual ignorant self proclaimed that was Amazon not Jeff Bezos.

All Maher had to do was look up in Forbes, not a liberal publication:

"Amazon founder and CEO Jeff Bezos paid a true tax rate of 0.98% as his wealth grew by a staggering $99 billion between 2014 and 2018; he reported just $4.22 billion in reported income during the same period."

In addition:

Bezos paid no federal income tax in 2007, ProPublica found, even though he added $3.8 billion to his fortune that year. That’s because he was able to offset the $46 million in income he reported with losses from investments and deductions on debts and other expenses, according to ProPublica’s analysis. ProPublica also found that Musk paid no income tax in 2018.

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"$175 billion per year. That’s how much the top 1% of taxpayers contribute to the tax gap—the difference between federal taxes legally owed and those actually collected—each year, according to a March study. The study estimated that the top 1% of taxpayers don’t pay taxes on 20% of their income. Significantly, however, ProPublica’s report does not suggest those billionaires broke the law and calculates the “true tax” not on income, but on wealth, which for the very rich is a much bigger number, since unrealized gains aren’t taxed."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/sarahhansen/2021/06/08/richest-americans-including-bezos-musk-and-buffett-paid-federal-income-taxes-equaling-just-34-of-401-billion-in-new-wealth-bombshell-report-shows/?sh=76bedc57fe1b

Usually the Maher's or George Will's are never called out on their inconsistencies, or downright incorrect information.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:43 AM

2. Yes. How did Donald Trump take control of the rich and the dumb party?

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Response to czarjak (Reply #2)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 07:49 AM

4. Those are his "peeps," he fits right in...

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 08:00 AM

5. Comes across to me as a bunch of horse hockey

The conservatives movement to my knowledge have never had any ideas to sell that come out as anything beyond “No” or “That cannot be done”. They are fear mongering, divisive, flag waving, ideological horse’s behinds used by corporations to keep everyone fighting each other while the 1% laughs all the way to their bank in the Cayman Islands.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 09:01 AM

7. When the Tea Party arose, Will proclaimed that it embodied Republican ideals.

His embracing of the Tea Party caused me to disregard his opinions after that.



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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 09:38 AM

8. Stick to baseball, George

Conservatism has no ideas, no policies, nothing that is not negative. They spew terms without defining them. They fully utilize agitprop to generate fear and then exploit that fear.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:02 AM

9. George Will enjoys the "private club" atmosphere of...

... the Republican party, with him among the WSJ-reading wealthy as they relax in leather chairs and feel innately superior to others.

Even cartoonists from years ago predicted where their propaganda and manipulations would lead...

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:09 AM

10. Conservatism has been a welcoming home for the cranks all the way back to the John Birch days.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 10:42 AM

11. Puh-leeze! I have zero interest

in any of George Will's opinions after his lifetime of being a bloviating, pompous, professionally pseudo-professorial, Reagan-loving, filled-with-himself, conservative a**hole.

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:02 AM

12. Blow it out your ahole Will.

I’ve had coffee this morning

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Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Sat Sep 18, 2021, 11:58 AM

13. Southern Strategy? Limbaugh? Religious Right?

 

You never complained when Talk Radio & Televangelists pushed Hate that got your friends Reagan, Bush and Gingrich elected - who passed laws against women, minorities, poor, LGBTQ+ to please "blue collar" Republicans.

George, the only difference between you and Trump - is he's too stupid to hide the Hate behind fancy language - which is why the MAGA Morons love him more than you.

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