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Rhiannon12866

(205,036 posts)
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 10:16 PM Sep 2021

'Roe Is In Serious Doubt': Joyce Vance Breaks Down TX's Abortion Ban - Deadline - MSNBC



Former US attorney Joyce Vance explains the upcoming rulings on the potential Mississippi and Missouri abortion bans that could eventually lead to the destruction of Roe v. Wade. Aired on 09/21/2021.


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'Roe Is In Serious Doubt': Joyce Vance Breaks Down TX's Abortion Ban - Deadline - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 OP
But Susan Sarandon and Ralph Nader mzmolly Sep 2021 #1
Texas Abortion Ban Architect Now Looking To Recriminalize Gay Sex And Overturn Gay Marriage LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #2
Thanks! Good Grief! Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #3
This asshole is serious about undoing Griswold LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2021 #5
The GOP must be another species. I cannot claim any connection to them at all. Irish_Dem Sep 2021 #4

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,046 posts)
2. Texas Abortion Ban Architect Now Looking To Recriminalize Gay Sex And Overturn Gay Marriage
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 11:19 PM
Sep 2021

This is the asshole who drafted the Texas abortion law. This asshole wants to strike down the implied right of privacy by getting Roe overruled which would/could lead to striking down the right to same sex marriage and other rights



https://www.comicsands.com/jonathan-mitchell-overturn-gay-marriage-2655065691.html
Though Mitchell's brief, also signed by his co-counsel Adam Mortara, dedicates much of its time to the Texas abortion law's defense, it also questions "lawless" pieces of legislation, namely the Lawrence v. Texas ruling, which decriminalized gay sex nationwide, and the Obergefell v. Hodges ruling, which legalized same-sex marriage.

Though the brief does not say reversing Roe v. Wade would threaten the same-sex marriage ruling, it does say that

""the news is not as good for those who hope to preserve the court-invented rights to homosexual behavior and same-sex marriage …
"These 'rights,' like the right to abortion from Roe, are judicial concoctions, and there is no other source of law that can be invoked to salvage their existence."

It goes on to add that while the Supreme Court should not necessarily overturn Lawrence and Obergefell, it should consider these two rulings as "lawless" as Roe v. Wade and, by extension, Planned Parenthood v. Casey.

"This is not to say that the Court should announce the overruling of Lawrence and Obergefell if it decides to overrule Roe and Casey in this case."
"But neither should the Court hesitate to write an opinion that leaves those decisions hanging by a thread. Lawrence and Obergefell, while far less hazardous to human life, are as lawless as Roe."

The brief drew the attention of Melissa Murray, who teaches at New York University's School of Law.

Rhiannon12866

(205,036 posts)
3. Thanks! Good Grief!
Tue Sep 21, 2021, 11:27 PM
Sep 2021

Years ago, someone who didn't follow politics asked me what the difference was between liberals and conservatives. I tried to make it simple and I said that conservatives are the ones who want to tell everyone else what to do. Sounds like this guy is that very definition, making decisions about the lives of people he will never know.

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