'Try Us': Jayapal Says House Progressives Not Bluffing On Infrastructure Bills - Rachel Maddow MSNBC

[Rhiannon12866]

Rep. Pramila Jayapal, chair of the House Progressive Caucus, talks with Rachel Maddow about members of her caucus insisting that Congress keep the promises Democrats campaigned on and pass the elements of President Biden's agenda contained in the reconciliation bill at the same time it passes the Republican compromise bill. Aired on 09/21/2021.

[PoliticAverse]

1. We shall see who caves and who doesn't. n/t

[qazplm135]

2. I would prefer

The group that wants both bills to pass is the one that doesn't cave, don't you agree?

[PoliticAverse]

3. Unfortunately I don't think we're going to get the pony we want...

as it appears that the group that wants the bi-partisan bill to pass first and separate is holding firm. So will the progressive caucus torpedo the bi-partisan bill and risk getting nothing? Will Manchin and Sinema be willing to lose the bi-partisan bill by rejecting the $ 3.5 trillion one (it really is looking that neither will fold on their rejection of the $ 3.5 trillion tab).

At the present time it looks like we're getting the bi-partisan bill and the $ 3.5 trillion bill reduced to a ~ $1.5 trillion one.

[Duppers]

4. "Try us!" That's what determination sounds like.

And yes, these 2 bill will be transformational.

Great interview, so THANKS for posting it Miss R.

[Rhiannon12866]

6. Thanks!

And I thought it was a really good interview, too, and have every hope for the bills.

[FBaggins]

5. It isn't a question of whether or not they're bluffing

It's a question of whether or not they have the power to dictate the results even if they're telling the truth.

Moderates absolutely have that power because of the narrow margins... but the math doesn't work the same way for the progressives. Their leverage faded rapidly once Pelosi announced that there would be a floor vote - because they can't control how many Republicans will vote for the bill.

The only way this works out to avoid the "try us" is if a Senate reconciliation bill is settled on by Monday.

From CNN:

Jayapal said they didn't talk a lower price tag because they don't know where the Senate is

[PoliticAverse]

9. Yes that is why the "moderate Democrats" in the House pushed for a vote on the 27th.

The reconciliation bill won't be ready by then.

[Just_Vote_Dem]

7. We promised the American people 3.5T and that's what we should deliver

and if not we're screwed in 2022.

[PoliticAverse]

10. What will Manchin and Sinema be willing to "deliver"? n/t

[Just_Vote_Dem]

11. If they don't deliver the bill as promised

they'll be delivering a Repug win in 2022.