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Rhiannon12866

(204,457 posts)
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 03:10 AM Sep 2021

Reduced Care For Non-Covid Patients Because of Unvaccinated Covid Patients - Rachel Maddow - MSNBC



Rachel Maddow reports on the state of Alaska shifting all of its hospitals to crisis standards of care, making it the second state to do so after Idaho, and explains that this designation means that unvaccinated Covid patients are using up hospital resources that now cannot be fully deployed to save non-Covid patients. Aired on 09/22/2021.

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Reduced Care For Non-Covid Patients Because of Unvaccinated Covid Patients - Rachel Maddow - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #1
Rachel said on national TV what we've all been thinking Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Sep 2021 #11
WE the people. no I the person. mopinko Sep 2021 #7
A good friend's BIL hospitalized with blood clots, non covid related. Needs an ICU bed and surgery PortTack Sep 2021 #3
Sounds like much the same situation, though not as severe - yet. Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #4
Thx..they're gonna need it PortTack Sep 2021 #5
I am so sorry that he's having to go through this, just being hospitalized is traumatic enough Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #6
where's the national guard? mopinko Sep 2021 #8
Looks like Sarah Palin's state MontanaMama Sep 2021 #9
They certainly did. Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #10
Normally sick patients should ALWAYS get preference over the Unvaccinated. magicguido Sep 2021 #12
Maybe so, but in Alaska and Utah the hospitals there no longer have any room Rhiannon12866 Sep 2021 #13

Response to Rhiannon12866 (Original post)

Rhiannon12866

(204,457 posts)
2. Rachel said on national TV what we've all been thinking
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 03:27 AM
Sep 2021

It is not simply a "personal" decision for someone to refuse a lifesaving vaccine. When they get sick, as they have been, and overwhelm hospitals now in Utah and Alaska, they are sentencing those patients who need other non-Covid lifesaving treatments to death because there is no room at the hospitals. So there is nothing "personal" about these selfish decisions.

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mopinko

(69,965 posts)
7. WE the people. no I the person.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 06:09 AM
Sep 2021

and yeah, they best start dying at home.

alaska is bad, there's no blue state next door.

PortTack

(32,682 posts)
3. A good friend's BIL hospitalized with blood clots, non covid related. Needs an ICU bed and surgery
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 03:41 AM
Sep 2021

Waited 6 hours to be seen in the ER. Is currently in a bed in the hallway “near” the nurses station. This is central Illinois..no crisis setting yet declared here.

Please everyone stay safe...stay well!

Rhiannon12866

(204,457 posts)
4. Sounds like much the same situation, though not as severe - yet.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 03:46 AM
Sep 2021

This crisis is looming all over the country. I wish your friend good luck and a return to good health.

Rhiannon12866

(204,457 posts)
6. I am so sorry that he's having to go through this, just being hospitalized is traumatic enough
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 04:25 AM
Sep 2021

Though I do remember circumstances in the past when patients were kept in the corner of the hall while waiting for a room to open up. However, if it's ICU, that explains while he's near the nurses' station. Just be grateful that he's in Illinois, it's Utah and Alaska that currently have these crises. I hope that his situation is only temporary.

Rhiannon12866

(204,457 posts)
10. They certainly did.
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 07:07 AM
Sep 2021

Rachel reported on this earlier this week. Since Alaska is so spread out and largely rural, the main hospital in Anchorage is quite large and people come there from all over the state. And that's the one that's over capacity due to the unvaccinated getting so sick that they need to be hospitalized.

Rhiannon12866

(204,457 posts)
13. Maybe so, but in Alaska and Utah the hospitals there no longer have any room
Thu Sep 23, 2021, 08:46 PM
Sep 2021

They have been completely overwhelmed, both with space and staff. And the facility in Alaska is huge, it's the main facility in the state.

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