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Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
1. I don't ever want to hear again that the Democrats and the Repukes are the same. EVER!
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 11:49 AM
Jan 2012

Clark Lytle Geduldig & Cranford is a lobbying firm for the GOP - AND the American Bankers Association WANTS to protect and defend the GOP.

http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/i/msnbc/sections/news/CLGF-msnbc.pdf

I don't ever want to hear again anyone say that the Dems and Repukes are doing the same things. If they were, Clark Lytle Geduldig & Cranford, and its client, the American Bankers Association, would WANT the Dems to win.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
2. They only want the heads of SOME Dems.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 12:12 PM
Jan 2012

They're only planning to sink the ones who speak out in support of OWS. They'll pour money into any sheme to get Sherrod Brown and to sink Tammy Baldwin, for example, but why should they bother with the likes of Baucus?

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
4. This is true. However, I gauge things from the Repuke point of view - whatever they're afraid of...
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:13 PM
Jan 2012

is something that works in MY favor. I see whatever Repukes stand for as despicable.

And that memo from Clark Lytle is amazing! Look at these sections:

Leading Democratic strategists have begun to openly discuss the benefits of embracing the growing and increasingly organized Occupy Wall Street (OWS) movement to prevent Republican gains in Congress and the White House this year

…If vilifying the companies of this sector the leading companies of this sector is allowed to become an unchallenged centerpiece of a coordinated Democratic campaign, it has the potential to have very long-lasting political, policy and financial impacts on the companies in the center of the bullseye

However, the bigger concern should be that Republicans will no longer defend Wall Street companies – and might start running against them too

…It may be easy to dismiss OWS as a ragtag of protestors but they have demonstrated that they should be treated more like an organized competitor who is nimble and capable of working the media, coordinating third party support and engaging office holders to do their bidding. To counter, that, we have to do the same…

AND ABOUT MY STATE (among others) THEY SAY:

…Florida: Swing state with a vulnerable Democrat Senator running for re-election has the ability to swing Presidential elections…

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
6. So, finally some Dems have figured out which way the crowd is moving,
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 01:59 PM
Jan 2012

and they're scuttling around to get out in front so they can appear to be leaders.

And I certainly don't mean to put all Dems in the visionless-opportunist basket. All I have to do is to think of our own Fabulous 14 to disabuse me of the idea that the whole party is spineless.

Sarah Ibarruri

(21,043 posts)
8. Either way, you know what this shows? That they're scared sh*tless of OWS, which is a good thing
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:19 PM
Jan 2012

And is just fine with me!

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
10. Five wiil get you ten that the reason the Bankers' Assn took no action on the proposal is . . .
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 02:48 PM
Jan 2012

. . . because it had already accepted another one.

They're going after OWS? And the sun rises in the east and sets in the west.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
11. Yes, and they have no idea of the nature of their opponent.
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 04:40 PM
Jan 2012

They're using the same old tactics--discredit the leaders, attack the sympathetic politicians, etc.--while failing to notice that there ARE no leaders, and the Occupy enterprise is far more than a simple political entity, and is engaged in fomenting major social changes of a sort that goes much deeper than the narrow-gauge partisan wrangling typical of America. They think they're fighting off Glass-Steagall when the OWS people are thinking Iceland..

Like every reactive force, the 1% and their tools are gearing up to fight the last war.

Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
12. Oh, come, you can think bigger than that, can't you?
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 05:54 PM
Jan 2012

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Jack Rabbit

(45,984 posts)
14. Well, if the truth needs to be told, so do I
Tue Jan 17, 2012, 07:52 PM
Jan 2012

However, I suffer from clinical depression and that makes me quite a pessimist.

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