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THE argument against this case overturning settled law.
To define viability with full rights to constitutionally protected "liberty" at the expense of the prior rights of a woman or girl is to define pregnant and unpregnant women or girls as constitutionally unprotected.
With any overrule of Roe v Wade, this SCOTUS, unlike any other, states that constitutional Rights are not protected Rights for over half the U.S. population.
Reid:
The conservatives on the court... love to wrap themselves in Brown v Board. They love to quote Plessy.
That's one of the anti-abortion world's famous thing they love to go for.
But they're trying to wrap themselves in that because they understand that they are going against the vast majority of Americans' will when they subject women to the vicissitudes of their state and say the states decide what women do with their bodies.
Mystal:
Conservatives want you to think that a fetus that has pre-viability -- means it cannot exist outside of its mother, it cannot live outside of the womb -- has the same, should have the same legal rights as full grown black people in this country.
And that the fact that it doesn't is some kind of miscarriage of justice (no pun intended);
and that the people who shouldn't have the full rights are the women who are carrying the fetus.
Now I can prove that a fetus is not deserving of full personhood rights because if it were, they would be arguing that the fetus can be given citizenship.
They would be arguing that the fetus should be having other rights like a right to education, a right to health care. They would be arguing that I should be able to claim fetuses as dependents on my taxes -- which you'll note, they're not.
Their only concern about the right of a fetus is when that can be used to diminish the rights of women.
And that is what conservatives are all about on the Supreme Court...
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bucolic_frolic
(43,256 posts)3 stolen seats. Republicans weren't even man enough to hold hearings on the Garland nomination and vote him down and suffer the consequences. They hid behind Mitch's power grab.
3 stolen seat. 3 stolen illegitimate seats.
ancianita
(36,130 posts)From across continents they came, from the FBI they came, to stop a woman from being elected president.
Don't think they won't use all the same forces against VP Harris.
From corporate male run networks they come this very minute to stop her.
How will they divide us? Let us list the ways.
You and I and others here have just laid out the democratic reasons for Judicial Reform.
IF we can survive 2022 and keep both houses.
One measure of solidarity raised here yesterday -- what will women's allies DO to fight in solidarity with women.
Allies are as allies do.
BlueSky3
(514 posts)Thanks.