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Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 07:22 PM Feb 2022

'It's Clear Putin Was 'Never Interested' In Diplomacy Says Amb. Bill Taylor - Deadline - MSNBC



Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor, former U.S. Ambassador to Russia Michael McFaul, and staff writer for the Atlantic Anne Applebaum weigh in on Russia’s attempts to decapitate the Ukrainian government and react to President Biden ordering a new round of sanctions. Aired on 02/24/2022.


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'It's Clear Putin Was 'Never Interested' In Diplomacy Says Amb. Bill Taylor - Deadline - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 OP
Of course not! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #1
He is sacrificing young Russian lives for his own ambitions. Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #4
Absolutely his choice. And for no reason! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #11
The Last Time FrankTC Feb 2022 #2
Ya think ? CentralMass Feb 2022 #3
Murderer for his own benefit. Doesn't care about lives, including those of his own SWBTATTReg Feb 2022 #5
I still believe he yearns to recreate the USSR which is the last thing the Russian people want Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #6
Agree w/ you totally. One important point putin is missing, is that you can't go back in time SWBTATTReg Feb 2022 #7
I spent time in the USSR in the late '80s Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #8
How lucky you are to have such an experience! SWBTATTReg Feb 2022 #9
I was scared as hell, having grown up believing the Russians were our enemy Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #12
An experience of a lifetime, chock full of important points and memories. Even better! SWBTATTReg Feb 2022 #13
NO SHIT Skittles Feb 2022 #10

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
4. He is sacrificing young Russian lives for his own ambitions.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 07:37 PM
Feb 2022

I still believe Putin wants to recreate the former USSR - but it makes no sense that the Russian people would want to return to those repressive times. When I was there, they welcomed Gorbachev's progressive policies - not to mention that it also makes no sense that they'd want to return to a time of war after the horrors they experienced during WWII. And this is a war of Putin's choice.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
11. Absolutely his choice. And for no reason!
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:24 PM
Feb 2022

Have you seen this retired Russian general ripping putin for his selfish agenda at the expense of Russia?

Gives me hope someone will remove him from power! 1🤞🤞🤞

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216350811

FrankTC

(210 posts)
2. The Last Time
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 07:35 PM
Feb 2022

The last time Russia was down and out, western capitalists saw it as an investment opportunity. This next time we need to stick a fork in it.

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
5. Murderer for his own benefit. Doesn't care about lives, including those of his own
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:01 PM
Feb 2022

soldiers. That's the sad thing about this whole mess, that a spoiled brat (putin) with all of his stolen billions, is having a temper tantrum because Ukraine wouldn't roll over and do his bidding.

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
6. I still believe he yearns to recreate the USSR which is the last thing the Russian people want
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:09 PM
Feb 2022

They welcomed the hope that was promised in 1991, but Putin wants to turn back the clock.

SWBTATTReg

(22,133 posts)
7. Agree w/ you totally. One important point putin is missing, is that you can't go back in time
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:11 PM
Feb 2022

although a lot of people (republicans mostly) seem to think so....

Take care and be safe!

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
8. I spent time in the USSR in the late '80s
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:17 PM
Feb 2022

Went with my grandmother and her peace group, they had a "sister town" there. We were actually scheduled to visit Kiev, but then Chernobyl happened. And there was such hope under Gorbachev's progressive policies, not to mention the statues everywhere as reminders of the horror Russia experienced during WWII. The last thing they need is another war - a war of Putin's choice in his quest to recreate the former USSR...

Rhiannon12866

(205,467 posts)
12. I was scared as hell, having grown up believing the Russians were our enemy
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:26 PM
Feb 2022

But I couldn't say no to my Nana. And it was a wonderful group, experienced world travelers dedicated to peace and we met with numerous like minded Russian groups, truly the trip of a lifetime. Having experienced the horrors of war, those we met never wanted to face it again. I still remember one older lady who had served as a nurse during WWII - and she said "Please, when you go back, tell your president that we want peace." *sigh*

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