'How Many Children Have To Die?': Ukraine Parliamentarian Pleads For Help Against Putin

[L. Coyote]

Ukraine parliamentarian Oleksandra Ustinova joins Morning Joe to discuss the international reaction to Russian President's Vladimir Putin's invasion of Ukraine. She makes an impassioned plea for further sanctions and a no-fly zone around the country.

[ffr]

1. I wouldn't be able to recall Polish pleas for help from Hitler back in the 1930s, but I can get

and idea from listening to Ms. Ustinova's pleas for help, what that may have looked like. Treaties broken. Red-lines crossed.

The question is, what do we do. Do we let hundreds of thousands of people die in the near term in hopes that whatever crazed psychopathic ills are going through Putler's mind right now, that they have a finite limit. Like TFG, he's going to die some day, be out of power some day, unable to execute more barbarious acts on humanity from the grave. Do we hope he doesn't already have it in his head to push the red button before his last breath or do we act now, assuming his actions prove he will anyway?

[Justice matters.]

2. I read somewhere that he does not actually "push"

a "red button" materially. He would issue orders to the country's Armed Forces minister (forgot his name but it was in the article).

Let's hope cooler minds will prevail. Once a nuke would be used, it's not known what the response would be... In case there would be no response, would they use another? Or how many nukes before a response is the question nobody can answer.

I don't think the armed forces minister would obey a crazy order to push the button to hit on any of Ukraine's big cities because he's got thousands of troops not far enough or even many already there.

The shit would hit the fan if any NATO member country would declare a no-fly zone and actually engage in direct conflict with invading troopers or material. Would the armed forces minister obey orders to start sending cruise missiles over to the intervening country (or countries) or not?