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Rhiannon12866

(204,779 posts)
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 12:40 AM Mar 2022

Russians Would Use A Nuclear Weapon First To Prevent Their Defeat Expert Says - The ReidOut - MSNBC



Russian forces have seized the largest nuclear power plant in Europe, which is located in southern Ukraine. The world narrowly escaped a nuclear catastrophe last night when Russia attacked, the U.S. ambassador to the UN said. Aired on 03/04/2022.


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Russians Would Use A Nuclear Weapon First To Prevent Their Defeat Expert Says - The ReidOut - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Mar 2022 OP
I don't think that's accurate. harumph Mar 2022 #1
That's what the headline said, but I agree with you. Rhiannon12866 Mar 2022 #2
I think our military was concerned that T**** would do the same thing. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Mar 2022 #3
Yes, the TV is awash in such "experts." PSPS Mar 2022 #4
The attack on the nuclear plant may have been an attempt at a pretext which failed localroger Mar 2022 #5
! Mme. Defarge Mar 2022 #6

harumph

(1,893 posts)
1. I don't think that's accurate.
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 12:48 AM
Mar 2022

Putin is not going to unilaterally be able to accomplish that - and his generals know it would
end Russia.

Rhiannon12866

(204,779 posts)
2. That's what the headline said, but I agree with you.
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 12:54 AM
Mar 2022

A nuclear attack would end everything and one would hope that the Russians - and the world - had learned the lessons of Chernobyl. And Putin wants to recreate the USSR, not annihilate it.

3. I think our military was concerned that T**** would do the same thing.
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 01:11 AM
Mar 2022

From Peril by Bob Woodward and Bob Costas:

After the Capitol riot, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi called [General Mark Milley, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff], to ask him what safeguards were in place to prevent Mr. Trump from starting a nuclear war. A transcript of the phone call obtained by Woodward and Costa quotes Pelosi as saying, "He's crazy."

"I agree with you on everything," Milley replied, according to the book.

Milley told nuclear control officers they had to check with him first — no matter what orders they received from the president, the book says.


That was probably illegal but necessary given T****'s state of mind after losing the election. The fear was he'd create a crisis that would allow him to stay in power.

localroger

(3,622 posts)
5. The attack on the nuclear plant may have been an attempt at a pretext which failed
Sat Mar 5, 2022, 01:25 AM
Mar 2022

I have read that the Russian defense system does not unlock their version of the "nuclear football" codes unless a totally separate early warning system has alerted to an incoming strike. Even after the launch codes are unlocked it takes two of three people who have access to command a launch. I suspect the strike on the reactor may have been an attempt to generate some nuclear fallout to create a mask or pretext to fake out or justify bypassing the early warning system. But it failed, since no radiation was released, because the Chernobyl disaster was intimately related to a particular design flaw of that style reactor which has since been fixed even in those reactors.

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