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Related: About this forumJake Tapper says 20 years of US appeasement paved the way for Putin's invasion
A harsh reality.
Skittles
(152,967 posts)you cannot blame it all on Trump
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Jetheels
(991 posts)Same thing with T****.
No wonder Russians just stand by and watch when they see their fellow citizens getting harassed and arrested. They understand their powerlessness in a land ruled by corruption. Which is exactly where the US is headed toward.
Martin68
(22,671 posts)When they invaded Afghanistan, he was blamed. Nations who want to defend the rule of law and international norms must take risks to defend those principles. That's why we are the good guys who occupy the higher moral ground. Otherwise we become the people we hate. Give them the benefit of the doubt. When they fall short, lower the hammer.
Doodley
(8,976 posts)relayerbob
(6,510 posts)Russia invading Ukraine being our fault is as ridiculous an idea as our invastion of Iraq was Russia's.
People need to take responsibility for their own actions and be held accountable for them.
nycbos
(6,033 posts)...the world kept letting Hitler get away with pretty monterous stuff until it was too late and he amassed to much power and it's to late.
Putin has been committing monsterous acts for 20 years and the world has stood by.
relayerbob
(6,510 posts)Period. Could he have been stopped? With 20/20 hindsight, sure. But still, it is 100% on Hitler and the Germans. Blaming peaceful peoples for warmongers in hindsight is a right wing thing, and has been for decades.
nycbos
(6,033 posts)But those "peaceful peoples" wanted to business with the Nazis.
Chamberlin said "peace in our time." The entire conservative party supported appeasement with the exception of Winston Churchill and a few other people
Clinton, Bush, and Obama, still thought they could work with Putin. Even after he did more and more brazen things. Trump just outright did his bidding.
We can add British Prime Ministers that list as well. Blair, Brown, Cameron, May and Johnson.
Luxury London real estate is basically a money laundering center for Russian oligarchs.
Putin's faced consequences for her earlier actions we might not be in this situation.
Bev54
(9,963 posts)The more he gets away with things the more he pushes. Putin has been allowed to get away with so much, with very little consequences because nobody would stand up to him. The legal system did the same with Trump and he continues to commit crimes, in the open, to this day.