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Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper shares his thoughts after President Biden said Russian President Vladimir Putin cannot remain in power during remarks in Poland. The White House said afterward that it was not a call for regime change.
Sanity Claws
(21,842 posts)Earlier in the speech Biden was telling the Russian people that he has no dispute with them. He was kind of addressing them.
Joinfortmill
(14,398 posts)stopdiggin
(11,254 posts)and about the first thing that I think the president has seriously left-footed in a series of very adroit and deft moves. I'm not going to hammer Joe on this (I'm sure plenty of others will step in to fill the breach) - but I don't think this is what he really wanted to say. (at least publicly)
(go ahead and call Putin a liar, a cheat, a psychopath and a criminal - but then say that it is for the Russian government and people to decide what to do about it)
Abolishinist
(1,287 posts)Having said that, I would disagree somewhat with Clapper saying the intended audience was the Russian people. My take is that IF it was more than an off-the-cuff remark, it was intended for the command structure immediately under Putin, i.e. those who could remove him by force, one way or the other.
DanieRains
(4,619 posts)Or he wouldn't have said it.
It's up to Russians to clean their house while they suffer.
Xipe Totec
(43,888 posts)"Will no one rid me of this turbulent priest?" (also expressed as "troublesome priest" or "meddlesome priest" is a quote attributed to Henry II of England preceding the death of Thomas Becket, the Archbishop of Canterbury, in 1170. While the quote was not expressed as an order, it prompted four knights to travel from Normandy to Canterbury, where they killed Becket. The phrase is commonly used in modern-day contexts to express that a ruler's wish may be interpreted as a command by his or her subordinates.
COL Mustard
(5,871 posts)But it wasnt a call for us to oust Putin.
Irish_Dem
(46,594 posts)Eyeball_Kid
(7,430 posts)but having the gravitas to say it in a way that gets it to the press for publication makes up for intellect.
Its easy to fully agree with his assessment. Putin has an inner circle, and were finding out how masterfully Biden plays his cards- with Putin and his inner circle.
This is an Im going to psych you out moment. Biden knows that Putin can get paranoid even if he is not threatened. OTOH, if people around him are troubled, then Biden called the shot.
Lovie777
(12,218 posts)parts of Ukraine are getting destroyed both by deaths and property and Ukrainians are being kidnaped for Russia's land.
FreepFryer
(7,077 posts)TeamProg
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