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applegrove

(118,622 posts)
3. Yes you are right. But after McCain died then went full on traitorous.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 09:30 PM
Mar 2022

Donald Trump was obviously all ready to destroy democracy with others. Rand Paul used to be the biggest libertarian authoritarian liar in Congress. Now he is the norm.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
4. McCain had already lost it when he picked Palin for running mate.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 10:48 PM
Mar 2022

Had he not that, I'd bet he would've been in the whitehouse.

LakeArenal

(28,817 posts)
5. Nah... The seeds had been sown with the TParty.
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 11:16 PM
Mar 2022

I think Koch Bros had more to do with the corruption than losing McCain.

But I agree, even his best friend Vapors Graham turned into a __________. Fill in the space.

applegrove

(118,622 posts)
6. I guess I mean there was no backbone left. So the libertarian authoritarians took over with nobody
Mon Mar 28, 2022, 11:24 PM
Mar 2022

popular on the right was left to call them out in the Senate. I know movement conservatives set up the situation where a host of American men and women had no good jobs and no hope so they put their lot in with something that seemed bigger than them and dropped reason. That was a 40 year plan. It involved undoing unions and the rich getting more, more, more and inequality hurting the workers to the point they want to burn the educated elites down. That was Reagan and the Kochs. Though I think Reagan didn't know the extent of what he was sowing. The last real voice against destroying democracy in the Republican Party was McCain. But even he was snowed by Republicans convincing him he didn't know economics when he ran for President the second time so he came out for trickle down. I guess there is nobody with gravitas on the right protecting America. Nobody has the power to either.

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
7. Well said.
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 03:52 AM
Mar 2022

And this is not Reagan's Republican Party, or even McCain's. It would be totally unrecognizable to anyone of that generation who called themselves Republican. Not to mention to those who "liked Ike..."

Rhiannon12866

(205,237 posts)
9. My grandmother and my parents all "liked Ike." I cannot imagine how I'd explain what's happening today
Tue Mar 29, 2022, 04:11 AM
Mar 2022

When I was a kid, my Dad was cleaning out his dresser and handed me a couple of old campaign buttons. One said "I Like Ike" and the other one said "Kennedy-Johnson" with a picture of their faces! Nobody thought of saving such things back then. I think I remember where I put them, if I could get the chance to look there today...

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