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Rhiannon12866

(205,491 posts)
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 05:52 PM Jun 2022

John Eastman To Rudy Giuliani: 'I Should Be On The Pardon List' - MSNBC



John Eastman, the architect of Trump's 2020 election scheme, wrote to Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani requesting placement on Trump's "pardon list," according to emails made public by the Jan. 6 committee. Chuck Rosenberg explains what legal exposure Eastman may be under. Aired on 06/16/2022.


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John Eastman To Rudy Giuliani: 'I Should Be On The Pardon List' - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Jun 2022 OP
Can you even IMAGINE the uproar if any POTUS (D) had done anything REMOTELY like this? Hugh_Lebowski Jun 2022 #1
And they had valid reasons to contest the election! Rhiannon12866 Jun 2022 #3
One huge criminal enterprise that no one will ever get to is the selling of pardons-- viva la Jun 2022 #2
He consistently refused to do anything by the legal book Rhiannon12866 Jun 2022 #4
I Desperately NEED To Be On The Pardon List keithbvadu2 Jun 2022 #5
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
1. Can you even IMAGINE the uproar if any POTUS (D) had done anything REMOTELY like this?
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 06:01 PM
Jun 2022

It's very clear his co-conspirators were lobbying him for pardons after he'd lost, and led an attempt at a coup.

I'd add that it's almost certain Eastman didn't get a pardon cause he didn't have enough money to receive one from the Grifter-In-Chief ... and because his plan failed, even though he was one of the only people to actually proffer TFG a remotely viable 'plan' (to destroy our Democracy).

Fucking sickening that Trump is NOT IN FUCKING JAIL FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE for what he tried to do. And even MORE SO that there's a SINGLE CITIZEN that doesn't despise this man with every fiber of their being.

Fuck TFG, and FUCK his fucking brainwashed wingnut asshole followers.

Rhiannon12866

(205,491 posts)
3. And they had valid reasons to contest the election!
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 06:20 PM
Jun 2022

Certainly Al Gore did, and Greg Palast made a valid case for John Kerry - in Ohio. And of course Hillary Clinton who actually got millions more votes! But Fox "News" is still looking for reasons to attack her! Now that fight would have brought the crazies to the Capitol much sooner!

I have every hope that these hearings result in enough charges and convictions to make a difference, but then we still have sitting Republicans in Congress who refuse to do the right thing and consistently vote en masse for anything that the Democrats support. And don't get me started on the cases made in both of the Impeachment Hearings...

viva la

(3,303 posts)
2. One huge criminal enterprise that no one will ever get to is the selling of pardons--
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 06:20 PM
Jun 2022

and/or using them to buy the cooperation and silence of co-conspirators.

And we have no idea who Trump "pocket-pardoned" (something uncommon before) because he did not go through the conventional channels of taking applications, having them reviewed by a pardon commission or aide, and getting a recommendation... and making them public on leaving office!
it's infuriating.

Rhiannon12866

(205,491 posts)
4. He consistently refused to do anything by the legal book
Thu Jun 16, 2022, 06:28 PM
Jun 2022

He defied precedent on every level - since he cared about nothing except getting his own way. Anyone disagreed with him, that meant "disloyalty," and they were effectively dismissed. And his "pardons" were a part of that, pardoning the clearly guilty was seen as a reward for loyalty - and that is something that also needs to be investigated. He even believed he could "pardon himself!"

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