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ancianita

(36,058 posts)
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:18 PM Jun 2022

The Honorable Judge Michael Luttig's Testimony -- "Clear and present danger"-- Blew The Roof Off

from Wikipedia

In January 2021, it was reported that Luttig "played a key role in advising" US vice president Mike Pence on what his legal responsibilities and powers were as he presided over the electoral vote count on January 6 of that month, in the face of pressure by president Donald Trump to take steps to overturn some states' votes. Luttig "agreed to quickly write up his opinion that the vice president had no power to change the outcome, then posted it on Twitter."

Proof of seditious conspiracy came yesterday from Justice Michael Luttig, who revealed

-- that the Twelfth Amendment never allows anything but what it says ...
-- nothing about objecting to the elector count,
-- nothing about rejecting the elector count,
-- nothing about suspending the count date for ten days,
-- nothing about sending the electors back to the states;
-- these Eastman "theories" are "constitutional mischief";
-- that Trump was told and knew the law, and that
-- Vice President Pence told Dr. Luttig that Trump told him to reject the electors.


He used the legal terms, "clear and present danger."

Although sometimes mentioned in subsequent rulings, the clear and present danger test was never endorsed by the Supreme Court as a test to be used by lower courts when evaluating the constitutionality of legislation that regulated speech.

The question in every case is whether the words used are used in such circumstances and are of such a nature as to create a clear and present danger that they will bring about the substantive evils that the United States Congress has a right to prevent. It is a question of proximity and degree. When a nation is at war, many things that might be said in time of peace are such a hindrance to its effort that their utterance will not be endured so long as men fight, and that no Court could regard them as protected by any constitutional right.


Not only did he testify to the Jan 6 Select Committee Chairman, he spoke to America, he spoke to nine SCOTUS justices, and to Attorney General Merrick Garland and the U.S. Department of Justice.

They, and we, ignore him at our peril.




"As you said, Chairman Thompson, that today, almost two years after that fateful day, in January, 2021 — that still Donald Trump and allies and supporters are a clear and present danger to American democracy.

That’s not because of what happened on January 6. It’s because to this very day the former president, his allies and supporters, pledge that in the presidential election of 2024, if the former president or his anointed successor as the Republican Party presidential candidate were to lose that election, that they would attempt to overturn that 2024 election in the same way that they attempted to overturn the 2020 election, but succeed in 2024 where they failed in 2020.

I don’t speak those words lightly. I would have never spoken those words ever in my life except that that’s what the former president and his allies are telling us, as I said in that New York Times op ed wherein I was speaking about the Electoral Count Act of 1887. The former president and his allies are executing that blueprint for 2024 in open and plain view of the American public. I repeat, I would have never uttered one single one of those words unless the former president and his allies were candidly and proudly speaking those exact words to America.

Chairman, thank you for the opportunity to appear here today in these proceedings. "












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The Honorable Judge Michael Luttig's Testimony -- "Clear and present danger"-- Blew The Roof Off (Original Post) ancianita Jun 2022 OP
Time to subpeonea Pence's servile ass... Thomas Hurt Jun 2022 #1
Except some say that Pence is not part of "team coup." imo, he's not among the allies Luttig ancianita Jun 2022 #2
He can testify to what the Pig asked or order him to do with the certification. Thomas Hurt Jun 2022 #3
Okay, then! I say we should call the Jan 6 Tip Line & submit requests that they invite Mike Pence. ancianita Jun 2022 #4
💯% SergeStorms Jun 2022 #5
Haha. ancianita Jun 2022 #7
Ooooh, interesting idea! calimary Jun 2022 #6
... ancianita Jun 2022 #8

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
2. Except some say that Pence is not part of "team coup." imo, he's not among the allies Luttig
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:29 PM
Jun 2022

refers to. But a case might be made that he is.

But don't forget, the Jan 6 Committee hasn't even invited him to discuss anything with them. Maybe they're too distracted by the more obvious and violent, and grateful that he came through even if just once.

Yet Pence is complicit, as shown here, and is a morally shallow leader.

ancianita

(36,058 posts)
4. Okay, then! I say we should call the Jan 6 Tip Line & submit requests that they invite Mike Pence.
Fri Jun 17, 2022, 11:35 PM
Jun 2022


https://january6th.house.gov/tip-line


Or what's an underground for?!

SergeStorms

(19,201 posts)
5. 💯%
Sat Jun 18, 2022, 01:41 AM
Jun 2022

I think that's a wonderful idea, ancianita. Now, where the hell can I find a phone booth these days?

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