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TexasTowelie

(112,240 posts)
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:10 AM Jul 2022

Putin warns Russia is just getting started in Ukraine - Guardian News



Russian President, Vladimir Putin, warned Moscow has barely started its campaign in Ukraine and dared the west to try to defeat it on the battlefield. 'Everyone should know that, by and large, we haven’t started anything yet in earnest,' Putin said during a speech to parliamentary leaders on Thursday, adding that the prospects for any negotiation would grow dimmer the longer the conflict dragged on. 'The further it goes, the harder it will be for them to negotiate with us,' he added. Referring to Ukraine's western allies, Putin said: 'We are hearing that they want to defeat us on the battlefield. What can I say, let them try.'
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Putin warns Russia is just getting started in Ukraine - Guardian News (Original Post) TexasTowelie Jul 2022 OP
If estimates are accurate, House of Roberts Jul 2022 #1
He's ripping Russia . .. Lovie777 Jul 2022 #2
Someone please take him out! Quakerfriend Jul 2022 #3
It's now an Extra Special Military Operation BeyondGeography Jul 2022 #4
My worry is that he is alluding to using his nuclear arsenal. infullview Jul 2022 #5
They have tossed that threat out a couple times purr-rat beauty Jul 2022 #8
India, for one. infullview Jul 2022 #9
Sounds like he is trying to bully Ukraine to the negotiation table. Irish_Dem Jul 2022 #6
this is the part of the fistfight where the bully w a bloody nose starts talking shit. (nt) FreepFryer Jul 2022 #7
He better hope not. BlueIdaho Jul 2022 #10
"Moscow has barely started its campaign in Ukraine" Bayard Jul 2022 #11
Tt's NATO that is actually just getting started... they have literally not yet begun to fight. paulkienitz Jul 2022 #12

House of Roberts

(5,177 posts)
1. If estimates are accurate,
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:26 AM
Jul 2022

he's running out of high tech weaponry. His factories can't get sophisticated electronics for 'smart' weapons, and are having to fall back on old technology.
As more and more weapons systems reach Ukraine's forces from the NATO countries, his supply lines are being decimated and his logistics are SNAFU. I don't see his military capability lasting much longer.
He can still lob missiles into populated areas and attack civilians. The question is how much longer can he even keep that up?

Lovie777

(12,278 posts)
2. He's ripping Russia . ..
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 06:51 AM
Jul 2022

families, the population and the economy all because he obsessed with Ukraine. The countless deaths on both side, and the suffering and destruction in Ukraine. A man with some form of compassion at least for country would know when to stop, but a coward does not.

Enough.

infullview

(981 posts)
5. My worry is that he is alluding to using his nuclear arsenal.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 07:43 AM
Jul 2022

He has cancer and may not be rational while being treated with steroids. His ego is bruised and it is not beyond the realm of credibility that he would consider using a nuke on one of his supersonic missiles - which we would have no way of intercepting. You may also have noticed that the rhetoric from China is lock step with Putin. This could be the beginning of the end for humanity. Unfortunately he has the MRGA (make Russia Great Again) people behind him, and even if it's only 33% of the population, the rest of the people are too scared to protest. Truly scary and possible foretelling about what will happen in the US if we don't act very quickly at the polls during the mid terms.

purr-rat beauty

(543 posts)
8. They have tossed that threat out a couple times
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:21 AM
Jul 2022

I believe if they do use a nuke in a War of Choice they will ultimately destroy Russia (not necessarily through warfare) but through extreme sanctions. Who would want to do business with them out of fear of becoming sanctioned themselves?

infullview

(981 posts)
9. India, for one.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 10:51 AM
Jul 2022

Thy have a demonstrated lack of morals where money is concerned. Case in point: the call centers that operate there that defraud pensioners for Billion$ of dollars every year without any response from their own government to shut them down. Forgot to mention that they are also buying up as much Russian oil as they can right now

Irish_Dem

(47,131 posts)
6. Sounds like he is trying to bully Ukraine to the negotiation table.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 08:08 AM
Jul 2022

Telling them they should negotiate now, as time goes on it will be harder for them to do so.

And he is threatening nukes if they don't.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
10. He better hope not.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 11:06 AM
Jul 2022

Any launch of a nuclear weapon will lead to red square being turned into molten radioactive glass.

Bayard

(22,099 posts)
11. "Moscow has barely started its campaign in Ukraine"
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 12:24 PM
Jul 2022

My assholery has just begun! He has to be running out of cannon fodder and ammunition.

He wants to meet the West on the battlefield? No, he doesn't. He'd get kicked to the moon and back, and he knows it. That's the only way I would see him resorting to nukes.

paulkienitz

(1,296 posts)
12. Tt's NATO that is actually just getting started... they have literally not yet begun to fight.
Fri Jul 8, 2022, 01:57 PM
Jul 2022

If it wasn't for the nuclear threat I'd be itching for him to dare stick one toe over the border of Estonia.

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