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As U.S. Funnels Money to Ukraine, Independent Media Faces Pressure to Parrot Official Narrative (Original Post) Uncle Joe Jul 2022 OP
so the far left meets the far right in our media lapfog_1 Jul 2022 #1
So, are you saying that NATO's reversed commitments, and aggressive behavior since conception, Magoo48 Jul 2022 #2
This Is Bullshit The Magistrate Jul 2022 #4
Yes, Russia is aggressive, but one is blind or in denial to not see NATO's part. Magoo48 Jul 2022 #6
I Don't Argue With Kitchen Tables, Sir The Magistrate Jul 2022 #7
I don't suggest excusing misdeeds or their horrible consequences Mr. Magistrate sir. Magoo48 Jul 2022 #9
NATO never invaded anyone. lapfog_1 Jul 2022 #5
Throughout history, the preeminent manner in which the Uncle Joe Jul 2022 #3
you want cheap gas or not? nt msongs Jul 2022 #8
Whoa. Looks like I stumbled into Vlad's Corner BannonsLiver Jul 2022 #10

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
1. so the far left meets the far right in our media
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 11:45 AM
Jul 2022

Tucker would feel right at home here on "Democracy Now".

There are not TWO SIDES to everything. Russia invaded a sovereign independent Ukraine and has been committing war crimes since the beginning. Putin is a dictator. The initial goal was NOT the Dombas region (and even if that HAD been the goal, that does not make it legitimate). The initial goal was to topple the government, kill the leadership, and make all Ukraine part of a new USSR.

Odd that "Democracy Now" is trying to see both sides argument when one side is not very democratic.

The communists are long gone... the new Russia is really the next Nazi Germany

Magoo48

(4,717 posts)
2. So, are you saying that NATO's reversed commitments, and aggressive behavior since conception,
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 12:00 PM
Jul 2022

did not play a part in Russia’s nightmarish invasion of Ukraine. Neither we nor Russia tried very hard to prevent this bloody war. Russia, for its insane reasons and the USA because we are the world’s largest arms manufacturer and distributor.

I’d watch Democracy Now over any corporate censored shit produced for tv including not so PBS.
Who is a better investigative journalist than Amy Goodman?
.

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
4. This Is Bullshit
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 12:07 PM
Jul 2022

New NATO members joined because they knew Russia Imperialism from having suffered under it, and wanted to avoid repeating the experience.

Charges of 'aggressive behavior' against the old Soviet Union are beyond silly clear to patent idiocy.

Magoo48

(4,717 posts)
6. Yes, Russia is aggressive, but one is blind or in denial to not see NATO's part.
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 02:46 PM
Jul 2022

And, what about our history of colonialism and imperialism?

The Magistrate

(95,248 posts)
7. I Don't Argue With Kitchen Tables, Sir
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 04:35 PM
Jul 2022

Misdeeds by 'A' neither excuse nor mitigate misdeeds by 'Z'. That you seem to think they do identifies you as a frivolous person unfit to discuss questions of state.

Magoo48

(4,717 posts)
9. I don't suggest excusing misdeeds or their horrible consequences Mr. Magistrate sir.
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 07:56 PM
Jul 2022

I only suggest that they be recognized and noted for future reference.

Nothing is as frivolous, dude, as broad speculation based on a few sentences.

lapfog_1

(29,205 posts)
5. NATO never invaded anyone.
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 12:14 PM
Jul 2022

Please list the nations forced to join NATO.

I'll wait.

And Democracy Now has a bias against anything the USA does or doesn't do. And somehow the USA is at fault for everything that happens.

Russia invaded Ukraine. Russia has been instigating problems within Ukraine almost since Ukraine declared its independence.

Or are you against self determination and freedom?

Wow...."neither we nor Russia tried to prevent". Really? You think the USA is responsible for Russia INVADING and killing thousands of civilians? Targeting apartment buildings? Executing civilians who have their arms tied behind them?

Uncle Joe

(58,367 posts)
3. Throughout history, the preeminent manner in which the
Tue Jul 12, 2022, 12:05 PM
Jul 2022

far left and far right meet to dominate any media is when the middle fails and that usually doesn't happen overnight but years and decades in the making.

Such is the state of the corporate media; it has been in an ever-conglomerating myopic profit driven crisis for decades at the expense of lifting up and enlightening the American People on the most critical issues of the day.

Everything with them is corporate driven but there is nothing democratic about major corporations, they're authoritarian by nature so it was easy for the corporate media to white wash or overlook candidate Trump's; obvious deficiencies for the highest office in the land.

It is/was all about the money.

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