Al Franken: Malcolm Nance on The Coming Civil War (July 17, 2022)

[Rhiannon12866]

His new book, They Want to Kill Americans, on the clear & present threat.


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[SheltieLover]

1. Kicking for visibility

[Rhiannon12866]

2. Thanks! This week Al has the best possible guest!

[SheltieLover]

3. Yw! Ty for sharing!

Yes, he does.

[vercetti2021]

4. They may try to kill us

But I wanna see the look on their face when their "enemies" shoot back at them and actually hit targets. I wanna see a bunch of fat bellied incels run like babies for the hills.

[Rhiannon12866]

5. TFG can't even manage to walk down a ramp

[vercetti2021]

6. Yeah

I can't imagine how his supporters could win anything in a war. They most carry around AR-15's as a don't look at my small dick gun. I doubt they can hit a damn target anyways

[Rhiannon12866]

7. That's why they favor automatic weapons, they don't require the skill of aiming

They will pulverize anything in their direction, including large numbers of people. That's why they're used as weapons of war.

[vercetti2021]

8. I can picture them as Stormtroopers

Can't hit a damn thing.

[ariadne0614]

12. We believe in their incompetence at our own peril.

Get Malcolm's book, or at least listen to this interview. Something like 20% of the insurrectionists arrested for 06Jan were police or ex and active duty military.

[Cyberologist]

16. Oath keepers intentionally recruit military,

As part of the group’s mission, oath keepers have directed their recruiting effort toward members of the military, law enforcement and other public-safety positions eg firemen, first responders.

They are often confrontational and have participated in multiple armed standoffs against the government (eg Bundy). The most recent is the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021. What gets me is how Congress openly support these domestic terrorists groups they get financed by oligarchs; proud boys got PPP loans. The base is a Neo-Nazi group that Rinaldo Nazzaro runs out of Russia.

I'm tired of the media labelling them 'militia.' I prefer Domestic Terrorists or Extremists because that's what they are. Also the FBI refuse to place these groups eg Three Percenters, Patriot Front on a Domestic Terrorists list even though they have reported they are (and have been) the #1 threat to US national security. That doesn't make sense to me.

[link:https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/oath-keepers|

[ariadne0614]

17. This seems to be the kind of information Malcolm documents in his book.

This ain't no party, this ain't no disco, this ain't no foolin' around.

[Rhiannon12866]

23. With these weapons, even the untrained can hit anything

That 18-year-old in Uvalde hit and killed 21.

[doc03]

20. Go to a shooting range, they know how to use

them. They practice shooting and have tons of ammo they have stockpilled. The gun dealers had containers for storing ammo underground, they were all bought up in short order.

[RocRizzo55]

9. K&R

[niyad]

10. KNR

[Crazyleftie]

11. more fear mongering..

[ancianita]

14. that's exactly what "they" said about COVID -- "more fear mongering"

yeah okay -- it's only the opinion of an American Naval counterintelligence ground combatant in Ukraine whose military family history goes back every generation to the US civil war, a SERE trainer who speaks at least five languages including Arabic -- you be like don't give me no bad news, right?

[Crazyleftie]

18. apples and oranges

covid is a fact. this man's statements are opinion not fact. he is a bright guy but he is selling a book for $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
he could just as easily go on TV and spout his "theories". It's all about da $$$$$$$$$

[ancianita]

19. then you don't know

either the man, his factual counterintel cred -- you don't know for a fact that he's wrong, it's just your opinion.

when your only filter is money, everything looks like transactional apples and apples. which show that you, imo, don't even know what he's talking about

while you're at it, don't bother reading his book, and don't believe any predictions about climate intensification, either

No one in Ukraine believed Putin would invade them, even as Russian tanks lined the border for at least a month in the runup to the invasion. They had a history, but ignored it. Then they had to deal.

Good luck with your cynicism.

[Crazyleftie]

27. I think you are missing my point

Most of what he is saying is common knowledge, at least to an intelligent knowledgeable person and to me. I don't dispute his facts.
But when he is predicting a civil war, THAT is fear mongering to sell books. Nothing cynical there.

[ancianita]

28. Not really.

We just don't agree. And if you're not being cynical, at least consider that the meaning of common knowledge is that it's common, so if only the intelligent people have it, you should realize it's not the kind of knowledge the rest have.

We stay informed, but at least 50% of the country is underinformed or misinformed.

Fearmongering is your take. Predicting likely scenarios is my take.

With wet bulb days taking over continents, armed insurgency will be the lesser of two catastrophes.

[Crazyleftie]

29. we do agree on a few things!!!!!

Unfortunately that 50% will never read that book.
Better that he sing it in rap or what passes for rock these days (I am revealing my age)

I hope we meet again in the metaverse, whatever da heck dat is...

[ancianita]

32. Cool.

How could we not? We're both Dems on DU, right?

[Traildogbob]

13. This is the

Exact reason the GQP refuse to ban weapons of war. They fully intend, not just bubbas in Walmart camo, but every elected, (correction-installed), politician up to president, law enforcement, SS, FBI, even some military (active brother Flynn) on and on, to take the country by force. They want as many weapons in the hands of their people (used lightly) as possible. Don’t take them lightly. I live in WNC mountains, (Meadows and Cawthorn) district 11). Sound Carry’s for miles. These willing murderers are shooting up to 100s of rounds most every day practicing. They certainly can shoot better than many sane people. How the fuck they afford that much ammo, lot of it is gubment money and meth or Coup funded. This is just a small segment of the loonies. You can bet they are shooting nationwide practicing with the intention to kill as many as possible that are not part of trumpism. Bannon, Jones and right wing media are hammering it in their heads. Just look at those running for office adds, guns guns guns. They will never lets us control guns of any kind. They may not win, but blood will flow thick. They have as much respect for life of their enemy as Putin, as he shows daily.
Heed Chief Nance’s warning. Every book he has written has warned of exactly what has happened before it did. He just got back from Ukraine and is going back. He is safer “there” the right “here”. He had to cancel book tour dates for his safety from MAGA threats to kill him. MurKKKa is on the verge. Bannon et al are planning to never allow another election. Beware!

[Delphinus]

15. America

is most definitely on the verge. We ignore this at our own peril.

[doc03]

21. It ain't no joke there are millions that think

they should take over by force. Just last week I was looking at the guns in Rural King. This guy comes over and says you better stock up "it's coming". I didn't respond I knew what kind of conversation he was attempting to start.

[Rhiannon12866]

26. Sounds to me he was implying that after the J6 attempt to overthrow the government failed

They plan to try again - only with more lethal weapons.

[Rhiannon12866]

30. The one that I really don't get is Rep. Steve Scalise!

He actually was shot himself in that attack on the Congressional Baseball Game practice! And he was seriously injured! Yet he still hasn't changed his stance on the gun issue!

[Traildogbob]

33. Drones and hell fire missiles.

Programmed to fire at red hats. It’s coming mofo.

[2naSalit]

22. Yup.

[Rhiannon12866]

31. This is as scary as it gets - no exaggeration!

And he had a book date last week that Stephanie Miller said had to "go virtual" due to "security concerns." I ordered his book and it arrived - guess I'd better start reading...

[Wild blueberry]

24. Thank you for posting this

Malcolm Nance knows what he is talking about, and Al Franken knows he does.
We are on the verge of losing our democracy. And worse.
This is why I feel to my bones that November 8, 2022, could very well be our last election. I am voting and urging everyone I know to vote as though it is.
VOTE.
P.S. And if we squeak through, we'll have elected lots more Democrats!

[Rhiannon12866]

25. Awww! Thanks so much! I actually stayed up to post this, since it's important

And I didn't want it to get buried. I always post Al Franken (actually got to see him live last November) and he couldn't have had a more important guest! Malcolm Nance is a citizen of the world, besides being the best on knowledge and experience, and I'm also taking what he has to say very, very seriously! We need to GOTV and elect a filibuster proof majority! After the horrors of these past few years, only the deluded and those with an anti democratic agenda will vote R!