Pink Floyd co-founder explains meaning behind warning at the top of his show

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Roger Waters defends Russia and China. He accuses the U.S. of fueling the war in Ukraine and says Zelensky should negotiate with Putin. He thinks NATO is a threat to Russia thus justifying Putin's invasion of Ukraine. Taiwan is still a part of China and China never invaded another country. Also Russia was already winning World War II when the U.S. entered the war!

Then Waters tells Smerconish he "should read more". I don't know if he is delusional or if he is ramping up publicity for his tour, but his views are absolutely bizarre. Unfortunately, a lot of people agree with him in the comments and they aren't all Russian. I feel like I fell asleep and woke up in Opposite World.

[hlthe2b]

1. A talented man whose talents surpassed his understanding of geopolitics long ago.

It becomes increasingly evident why Gilmour and others went their own way.

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2. It was one of the strangest interviews I've ever seen

He sounds very sane and relatively informed if you don't listen to what he is actually saying. Very disturbing.

[WA-03 Democrat]

4. Had me until the 3 minute mark.

Still love the art but not so much the artist

[AZSkiffyGeek]

5. I've long given him the benefit of the doubt regarding his takes on Israel

And I still love Floyd and most of his solo material. I've seen him a 1/2 dozen times at least, and they've consistently been among the best concerts I've seen.
But this tankie flex is just cringe. Someone needs to stop reading Jacobin. I haven't bought tickets for is show in October, and if he's using it to call Biden a warmonger, I just... /headdesk

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11. So do you think that is what it is?

He has been reading far-left writers? Do you think Jacobin advocates the things he was saying? A lot of what he said really made no sense in the real world.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

13. Jacobin was pushing the "It's NATO and America's fault" back in Feb.

His Putin and Xi apologies scream Marxist propaganda.

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17. Okay, thanks for that

It does explain things a bit better. So now we know what he probably meant when he admonished Smerconish to "read more". It is hard enough dealing with the far-right conspiracy theories, I wasn't prepared to deal with some far-left nuttery.

[hlthe2b]

28. Chris Hayes is a big follower of Jacobin publication & it has occasionally seeped into his views.

I suspect his colleagues at MSNBC keep him from going too far on the extreme side of "left," but he's occasionally said or at least inferred some things that gave me pause. There is a spectrum on our side as well...

[Ferrets are Cool]

3. I love RW, but, and it's a huge BUT, his grasp of politics has been somewhat lacking

for years.

[llashram]

6. dangerous trumper POS

[AZSkiffyGeek]

7. He's not a Trumper

But he's certainly an apologist for some other shitty people.

[llashram]

9. if you say so...

I'll stick to my opinion...thank you very much

[AZSkiffyGeek]

10. Have you actually heard him say anything about Trump?

I've seen him rant about how awful Trump is in several concerts.
But if your gut says that his actual words don't exist, okay, I guess...

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14. He hated Donald Trump

and was very outspoken about it in his concerts. Though Waters comes across as pro-Putin, that isn't necessarily synonymous with being pro-Trump.

[llashram]

19. really? okay

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21. I wasn't all that familiar with Waters'

opinions about politics until I saw this interview.

[ret5hd]

23. Yeah, really. I submit for evidence:

[llashram]

30. I really

believe that words are cheap. Especially if they are 6 years old. So I stick to my opinion. Have a good one.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

31. Truthiness

Don’t care what people provide as proof, not gonna change your mind. Got it.

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35. Really strange

[llashram]

36. proof is relative

especially in these times. As a 74-year-old mixed-race American, these last years are proving to be a challenge. When I look around me, ALL THE TIME NOW, I feel like I felt in Vietnam. Everyone around me was an enemy. Same here now concerning a certain racial persuasion and their self-hating helpers. Walker in Georgia and Thomas on the SC are prime examples. Some I don't know, some by the eye f*** they give me which are most definitely saying I hate you n****. And I know they want me dead. So someone can say anything, it is the heart that matters to me. My neighbours of different racial persuasions look me in the eyes and always have treated me kindly and I trust. Yet and I know at least 70 million hearts out here are full of hate based on a fear of being supplanted racially. I don't have the luxury of trusting UNTIL I look in your eyes then I can proceed however from there.

You are entitled to trust what your heart tells you to trust. I proceed on the same path.

Since the former POTUS arrived on the scene, I now know lies have replaced truth. Fear has replaced trust. HATE has replaced LOVE.

I trust my instincts, they got me through many dangerous situations. I will continue to.

[hlthe2b]

12. Most definitely NOT a Trumper. He's far leftist.Talented but, he's very misguided geopolitically

on many issues (though I have a bit of sympathy for his more balanced views on Palestine), but he's always been far left--just not always so extreme. While I do not believe he's pro-Putin, his anti-war views have him as the equivalent of an enabler--like the Jill Steins of our side.

[SheltieLover]

8. Too much acid decades ago?

Very disappointing!

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15. Yeah, that dawned on me,

though I have no idea what his views were years ago. It seems that in recent years a lot of people have gone off the rails in many regards. We live in very strange times.

Hi there!

[Gaugamela]

16. There is a left-wing echo chamber, just as there is a right-wing echo chamber. People

can get stuck in them, and lose sight of the real world implications. Fortunately, the left-wing version doesn’t advocate violence, and isn’t generally as hermetically sealed. I say this as both a longtime PF fan and one whose politics falls pretty far to the left. I will admit that I haven’t watched the video above, but I’m familiar enough Waters’ views from other interviews not to be surprised by summary in the OP. I just salute Mr. Waters for the wonderful music, and move on.

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18. Yes, that does seem to be true

about the violence, at least in this day and age. My views have always leaned left, but I'm inclined to combine that with pragmatisms, as I like seeing ideas translated into real change.

I didn't realize that the "left-wing echo chamber" could be that extreme. Some of his views come across as delusional.

[NoMoreRepugs]

20. Who gives a flying "F" what this BOZO has to say?? Seriously, when did 'celebrity' (loose use of the

word here) opinions merit listening too?

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22. I understand what you're saying,

but he has quite a following and now pro-Putin Russians seem to think they've found a kindred soul in the West.

[They_Live]

24. It's all together possible that he is

being provocative to create controversy and drive sales of his products. I think he was the one who went bonkers instead of Syd Barrett.

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26. Yes, that was what I thought was possible

It could be for publicity during his tour.

[love_katz]

25. Very sad.

Not going to watch the interview. I figure it will make me feel sick and sad. Love his music. I don't look to celebrities to teach me about politics. It is my responsibility to get informed and to make my own decisions. I love it when they express views that are in harmony with mine, or support causes that I believe in. But, I don't expect it, and I remain free to disagree with them and even boycott them if they go too far off the rails. This does make me really sad.

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27. Yes, it is sad

It isn't just about politics, it is also about morality, especially in regards to Ukraine and Russia. His beliefs are very disturbing if he really feels that way.

[Mosby]

29. He sure came pretty close to saying we should have left Hitler alone.

People like him need to be shunned.

Marxists suck.

There is nothing particularly progressive about non interventionism, regardless of the decade. It's the cowards way out, IMO.

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32. Agreed, there was nothing progressive

about his beliefs. Some of them were actually cruel and insensitive considering what is happening to the Ukrainian people. He's a bit of a jerk actually.

[maxrandb]

33. I love The Who

But I would never take political advice from Pete or Roger.

To me, it's no different than a star football player thinking he is qualified to be a Senator because he was good at football.

What makes these folks "experts" on anything except making great music?

Susan Sarandon made some good movies, so we should listen to her about politics?

Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos made a lot of money, so we should take governing advice from them?

Donnie Dipshit was a fucking reality TV businessman, so he should be president?

These stars have opinions. So do I. Their opinions shouldn't matter any more, or less than mine

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34. It would be nice if networks like CNN

didn't give them a platform for their political views though. Was it necessary to give credence to his extreme views on cable news? It gave Waters free publicity, but can hardly be considered serious news and commentary.