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Rhiannon12866

(205,492 posts)
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 09:45 PM Aug 2022

Veteran Destroys DeSantis' 'Troops To Teachers' Program - Rebel HQ



Florida Governor Ron DeSantis' plan to tackle the teacher shortage is to allow war veterans and retired police officers teach students with little training. Richard Ojeda breaks it down on Rebel HQ.


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Deuxcents

(16,248 posts)
1. I agree w/ this Vet..
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:24 PM
Aug 2022

Last night, Alex Wagner had a great segment on teachers in Florida n the governors indoctrination lessons. I grew up in public schools..Dade county 1-12. My mom graduated Miami High in ‘42...we are all products of public schools n it will soon be just a memory as the GOP can’t wait to dismantle our education system. I’m watching this disaster in real time n it’s painful not only here but across other states, too. All I can do is vote n hope.

Rhiannon12866

(205,492 posts)
4. I did see that and posted the series, given my experiences in school (New York) I found it alarming!
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:46 PM
Aug 2022

At the beginning of elementary school, we said the "school prayer" along with the Pledge of Allegiance. All I can remember from those early years was that it ended with "our parents, our teachers and our country." But then that was abruptly eliminated, no prayer in schools which makes sense, but we were confused. For awhile one student was chosen to time a "moment of silence" when we were supposed to "pray for ourselves" if we wanted to - and then that was eliminated, too, and no one missed it or thought about it again.

I can remember the teacher in 9th grade Social Studies teaching about the Civil Rights movement and some Civics, and 10th grade was World History - we learned about the World Wars, what caused them and, of course, Hitler. How can anyone's education be complete without learning these essential lessons?? I also found last night's report very disturbing.

Here's the entire series if you missed any of it:

DeSantis Imposes Extreme Culture War Framing On Nuanced U.S. Civics - Alex Wagner - MSNBC (3 videos)
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017759547


cbabe

(3,548 posts)
2. Military in uniforms
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:32 PM
Aug 2022
https://www.defense.gov › News › News-Stories › Article › Article › 2208332 › service-members-civilians-bound-by-dod-rules-during-election-campaigns

Service Members, Civilians Bound By DOD Rules During Election Campaigns

Sep 8, 2020All members of the armed forces, including active-duty members, members of the reserve components not on active duty, and retired members are prohibited from wearing military uniforms at political...

https://www.army.mil › article › 71574 › rules_restrict_political_activity_by_dod_personnel

Rules restrict political activity by DOD personnel

This issue -- one the department regularly addresses during election periods -- came to light earlier this week after an Army Reserve Soldier in uniform appeared endorsing a political candidate....

https://www.court-martial.com › ucmj-and-politics.html

UCMJ and Politics | US Military Justice Lawyer Philip D. Cave

The Army determined that Jesse D. Thorsen violated policies that bar soldiers from participating in political events in their official capacities or while in uniform. Experts say a reprimand may become a problem if Thorsen seeks a promotion or could be used to justify more serious punishment if he gets in trouble again


Rhiannon12866

(205,492 posts)
5. Interesting, I did not know this.
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 10:53 PM
Aug 2022

I went to a political event back in 2006 where President Clinton spoke to endorse our Democratic Congressional candidate - and of course there was record turnout in this little burg to see and hear a former president! And I remember a WWII vet there, not in uniform, but wearing an identifying hat and many spoke to him, thanking him for his service. So I guess this is now prohibited??

Rhiannon12866

(205,492 posts)
7. At the event I attended, I'm sure than one one did. This elderly vet just showed up like we all did
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:16 PM
Aug 2022

And no doubt wore the hat because he was proud of his service - and likely showed up like the rest of us did, it was pretty exciting to see a former POTUS!

As for sending vets to teach school, I certainly agree that this is a terrible idea unless they were trained as teachers. Though it would have been appropriate if a WWII vet had come in to 10th grade World History to share his experiences as opposed to us reading about the war in books.

As for police officers, Mary Trump talks about that in her second book. She chronicles instances of law enforcement being deployed to schools, in the wake of mass shootings, for "protection." But she said that this eventually morphed into these officers serving as disciplinarians in schools - children as young as preschool students were actually suspended for "crimes" like missing classes or "talking back." And those students who were targeted were often those in minority groups. This set a terrible precedent.

Deuxcents

(16,248 posts)
8. He's ragging on woke institutions n policies.. they have hijacked the word
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:19 PM
Aug 2022

And it’s meaning. Being woke is being alert to injustices, especially racism. And speaking out for change but they have made this a negative. We should hit back at them about this..imo

keithbvadu2

(36,829 posts)
9. Ashlii Babbit was a woke veteran and a right wing hero.
Thu Aug 18, 2022, 11:31 PM
Aug 2022

Ashlii Babbit was a woke veteran and a right wing hero.

Yet they don't seem to criticize her when she did not 'just comply'.

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