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Rhiannon12866

(205,509 posts)
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:20 AM Aug 2022

Charles Blow: 'Republicans Are America's Problem' - The Last Word - MSNBC



New York Times columnist Charles Blow joins MSNBC's Lawrence O'Donnell to discuss his argument that Donald Trump represents an inflection point for the GOP allowing, Blow says, Republicans to "run headlong" into "their bigotries, intolerances and oppression." - Aired on 08/18/2022.


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Charles Blow: 'Republicans Are America's Problem' - The Last Word - MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 OP
I was hoping this would be a NJCher Aug 2022 #1
Yup. We gotta stop dancing around the problem. About 40% of the country opposes democracy. SunSeeker Aug 2022 #2
Electoral College is part of the problem bmichaelh Aug 2022 #3
Agreed. And journalist Greg Palast contends that John Kerry actually won in 2004, too: Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #4
K&R 2naSalit Aug 2022 #5

NJCher

(35,687 posts)
1. I was hoping this would be a
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 01:33 AM
Aug 2022

Regular, weekly column.

He certainly would have no trouble finding material for it.

SunSeeker

(51,574 posts)
2. Yup. We gotta stop dancing around the problem. About 40% of the country opposes democracy.
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 03:52 AM
Aug 2022

Republicans are indeed the problem, particularly since 1965.

bmichaelh

(382 posts)
3. Electoral College is part of the problem
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 04:36 AM
Aug 2022

Republicans may not win the popular vote for president for some time.

Trump has lost the popular vote twice.
No Republican has won it since the popular vote since Bush in 2004.
And there were some issues with limited voting machines in the state of Ohio in 2004.

Republicans do not care about the popular vote.

They care about Electoral College.

Rhiannon12866

(205,509 posts)
4. Agreed. And journalist Greg Palast contends that John Kerry actually won in 2004, too:
Fri Aug 19, 2022, 04:44 AM
Aug 2022
Kerry Won: Here are The Facts
by Greg Palast - November 4, 2004


know you don’t want to hear it. You can’t face one more hung chad. But I don’t have a choice. As a journalist examining that messy sausage called American democracy, it’s my job to tell you who got the most votes in the deciding states. Tuesday, in Ohio and New Mexico, it was John Kerry.

Most voters in Ohio thought they were voting for Kerry. At 1:05 a.m. Wednesday morning, CNN’s exit poll showed Kerry beating Bush among Ohio women by 53 percent to 47 percent. The exit polls were later combined with — and therefore contaminated by — the tabulated results, ultimately becoming a mirror of the apparent actual vote. Kerry also defeated Bush among Ohio’s male voters 51 percent to 49 percent. Unless a third gender voted in Ohio, Kerry took the state.
So what’s going on here? Answer: the exit polls are accurate. Pollsters ask, “Who did you vote for?” Unfortunately, they don’t ask the crucial, question, “Was your vote counted?” The voters don’t know.

Here’s why. Although the exit polls show that most voters in Ohio punched cards for Kerry-Edwards, thousands of these votes were simply not recorded. This was predictable and it was predicted. [See, “An Election Spoiled Rotten,” November 1.]

Once again, at the heart of the Ohio uncounted vote game are, I’m sorry to report, hanging chads and pregnant chads, plus some other ballot tricks old and new.

The election in Ohio was not decided by the voters but by something called “spoilage.” Typically in the United States, about 3 percent of the vote is voided, just thrown away, not recorded. When the bobble-head boobs on the tube tell you Ohio or any state was won by 51 percent to 49 percent, don’t you believe it… it has never happened in the United States, because the total never reaches a neat 100 percent. The television totals simply subtract out the spoiled vote.

More: https://www.gregpalast.com/kerry-won-rnheres-the-facts/

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