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Rhiannon12866

(206,199 posts)
Mon Aug 29, 2022, 11:50 PM Aug 2022

Lawrence O'Donnell: Sen. Graham Hits Rock Bottom With 'Riots' Threat Over Trump - The Last Word MSNBC



MSNBC’s Lawrence O’Donnell condemns Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham’s claim that if Donald Trump is indicted for the trove of classified documents he held at his Florida home, there would be “riots in the street.” - Aired on 08/29/2022.


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Lawrence O'Donnell: Sen. Graham Hits Rock Bottom With 'Riots' Threat Over Trump - The Last Word MSNBC (Original Post) Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 OP
Saw him on his show. He minced no words as the senator "has hit rock bottom" Deuxcents Aug 2022 #1
Lawrence has really been telling it like it is on this TFG fiasco. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #2
Is Graham sacrificing himself for tfg? Why is he doing this? Deuxcents Aug 2022 #3
It makes no sense to me, either, never has. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #7
Lindsey has become a very sad person LetMyPeopleVote Aug 2022 #4
I've thought of that often, what would John McCain think?? Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #6
Trump wanted dirt on everyone for leverage, blackmail, etc. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #8
That has to be the only explanation. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #10
Trump had Macron's sex life in a report, he probably had one on Lindsey. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #13
Awww, what a stand up guy the Republicans support - a potential blackmailer! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #14
I assume Trump had dirt on every elected member of congress. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #16
Makes sense - and no wonder the guy has no real "friends" Good Grief! Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #17
Yes. Jimmy Carter and Trump are polar opposites. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #18
He's obviously a very damaged human being. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #19
Trump is fairly easy to diagnose. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #20
Kicking for visability SheltieLover Aug 2022 #5
The Quisling magicguido Aug 2022 #9
Is that his family? Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #15
I looked for but still missed this one. Uncle Joe Aug 2022 #11
Lawrence is the best, he's really been on fire these past weeks. Rhiannon12866 Aug 2022 #12

Rhiannon12866

(206,199 posts)
2. Lawrence has really been telling it like it is on this TFG fiasco.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 12:30 AM
Aug 2022

And he has the experience to back up his words. One thing I really enjoy seeing is Graham's previous vehement condemnation of TFG - that can't be shown too many times!


Deuxcents

(16,353 posts)
3. Is Graham sacrificing himself for tfg? Why is he doing this?
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 12:41 AM
Aug 2022

On another post I said he was whistling Dixie.. I hope it was received as I
Meant it n don’t get zapped. He’s dangerous w/ his words n some are ready to be recruited for the cause/cult.

Rhiannon12866

(206,199 posts)
7. It makes no sense to me, either, never has.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 05:09 AM
Aug 2022

Graham's previous closest friend was John McCain - and what TFG said about him during his campaign - 'I like people who weren't captured' - offended pretty much everybody. The family even made a point of emphasizing the TFG wasn't welcome at the senator's funeral. So why the turnabout by Graham?? He gravitates to the most powerful Republican in the room? With luck, it sure looks like TFG is soon going to lose his freedom as a private citizen, so why is Graham suddenly doubling down now??

Rhiannon12866

(206,199 posts)
6. I've thought of that often, what would John McCain think??
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 02:57 AM
Aug 2022

Not only does the man have no loyalty - but he's completely gone round the bend. We've heard what Graham said initially, condemning TFG and everything he stood for. So what happened??

Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
8. Trump wanted dirt on everyone for leverage, blackmail, etc.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 05:30 AM
Aug 2022

It is reasonable to assume he has something on Lindsey Graham.

And it also looks like he has something on Hawley as well.

Rhiannon12866

(206,199 posts)
10. That has to be the only explanation.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 07:19 PM
Aug 2022

We keep hearing Graham's vehement condemnation of TFG's candidacy early on - what happened??

Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
13. Trump had Macron's sex life in a report, he probably had one on Lindsey.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 07:30 PM
Aug 2022

Actually I think the particulars and specifics on Lindsey are an open secret in DC.

Rhiannon12866

(206,199 posts)
14. Awww, what a stand up guy the Republicans support - a potential blackmailer!
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 07:50 PM
Aug 2022

We did hear that he had "dirt" on Macron, could he have similar material on Graham among those recovered papers? Could explain a lot, since even if his life in D.C. is an open secret, this could make a difference to his constituents.

Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
16. I assume Trump had dirt on every elected member of congress.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 08:06 PM
Aug 2022

And of course all Dem leaders for sure.

I don't think the what of Lindsey is the issue, it is the who.

But yes Trump would want salacious sexual details on everyone.

For leverage, to show to other people, and to be sexually aroused.
He is a peeping tom with CIA documents.

Rhiannon12866

(206,199 posts)
17. Makes sense - and no wonder the guy has no real "friends" Good Grief!
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 08:15 PM
Aug 2022

And no wonder he tried to go to such lengths to blackmail Ukraine into finding anything on Joe Biden's son. He'd be excruciatingly tough to blackmail. What a creep!

And kind of the opposite of Jimmy Carter who took great pains to learn how every member of Congress stood on any bill that it was important for him to get passed.


Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
18. Yes. Jimmy Carter and Trump are polar opposites.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 05:20 AM
Aug 2022

On just about every measure we can think of.

Yes everything is transactional for Trump and he loves stirring up trouble. His employees report he always set them up to fight and hate each other. He did it just for for fun. So he is sadistically cruel. He likes watching others suffer.

While he stubbornly refuses to listen to most anyone, he was probably easy for Putin, Kim Jong Un and Saudi princes to manipulate. Trump is awed by important, wealthy, powerful people who can seduce him with wealth and flattery.

Rhiannon12866

(206,199 posts)
19. He's obviously a very damaged human being.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 05:39 AM
Aug 2022

In Mary Trump's book, and she's a clinical psychologist, she said his issues are so numerous and complicated that it would be difficult just to diagnose him, as if he'd ever be willing. And you're right, he apparently enjoys doing damage - he has to have learned enough history to know who this country's allies and adversaries are. Why would he want to damage this country?? Apparently, because he can. And he's still at it, refuses to give up the spotlight. What has to happen is that he's no longer in the news or allowed to hold his "rallies." But he's been defeated in politics and no longer allowed to use popular social media, but he's still managed to find a way.

Irish_Dem

(47,482 posts)
20. Trump is fairly easy to diagnose.
Wed Aug 31, 2022, 05:58 AM
Aug 2022

You don't always need a clinical interview to diagnose someone if you have adequate observation of real life functioning.
Which is actually the best way to make a diagnosis. Sitting in an office with someone is limiting when trying to conduct an assessment.

I am a retired clinical psychologist with a speciality in the diagnoses and assessment of personality and intellectual functioning of children and adults. The clinical interview, and an array of testing methods are just short cuts to figuring out what is going on with an individual. The best method would be close observation of an individual's functioning in the real world.

In terms of Trump we have a plethora of information, video tapes, speeches, reliable legal and personal history, constant verbal and written daily commentary, reliable reporting from friends, family, employees.

We have directly observed him under a wide variety of circumstances. So we have a great deal of data, and can see ourselves what his diagnoses are.

And they are fairly straightforward. Sociopath, narcissist, long time drug abuser (stimulants.) Learning disabilities as well.

Ok I would defer to Dr. Trump, she knows him best, because she is saying there are more diagnoses. But we already know the main ones.

Trump is cruel and sadistic and loves destroying things. And he will burn it all down to save himself. Nothing and none have any meaning for him. He is the only entity that matters. The rest of us are just props in his one man show.

Trump will never stop until he is made to stop or can no longer function in any capacity.

Rhiannon12866

(206,199 posts)
12. Lawrence is the best, he's really been on fire these past weeks.
Tue Aug 30, 2022, 07:26 PM
Aug 2022

And not only does he have the experience to back it up, he has the best guests! If you're looking for it, I always make it a point to label the subject line and to include the description provided.

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