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"NOT DISAPPOINTED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA" by JAKE LAMAR (Original Post) mahina Jan 2012 OP
He nails this ... and in only a little over 6 mins. JoePhilly Jan 2012 #1
Fair enough. AmericaIsGreat Jan 2012 #2
Until we have publicly financed elections, this is the system we have. mahina Jan 2012 #5
The president is right and good anon-y-moose Jan 2012 #3
Great video and frustratingly accurate about the left. Pisces Jan 2012 #4
kind of, right? mahina Jan 2012 #8
I'll give that a very supportive k&r DFab420 Jan 2012 #6
thanks man mahina Jan 2012 #7
Very persuasive argument. AtomicKitten Jan 2012 #9
you bet mahina Jan 2012 #11
What happens on the internet Mosaic Jan 2012 #10
excellent points from this guy. couple questions for the poster... stlsaxman Jan 2012 #12
Good points, mahina Jan 2012 #13
Did we make the right choice in '08? Plucketeer Jan 2012 #14
I think some of what he says is very fair... rbnyc Jan 2012 #15
Great point! Plucketeer Jan 2012 #16
We should be able to run if we want to, without needing a personal fortune. mahina Jan 2012 #17
I read you. We need publicly financed campaigns to get mahina Jan 2012 #18
Indeed rbnyc Jan 2012 #19
When all else fails, lower your standards izquierdista Jan 2012 #20
Or mahina Jan 2012 #21
voice in the wilderness? Enrique Jan 2012 #22

mahina

(17,669 posts)
5. Until we have publicly financed elections, this is the system we have.
Fri Jan 20, 2012, 07:19 PM
Jan 2012

I don't expect that the media will tire of 'earning' billions every cycle.

From my perspective, that's the main battle to win, and it is a doozy. Meanwhile, here we are!

Mosaic

(1,451 posts)
10. What happens on the internet
Sat Jan 21, 2012, 10:46 AM
Jan 2012

Is many conservatives, who secretly hate Obama mainly for his skin color, pretend to be Dems, liberals, Progressives, and socialists. Then what happens is that their agenda to elect a repugnant is put into action. Never trust what you read on non-Democratic sites, they are out there, even here sadly. Obama is a great president, this video is a humble affirmation of that. Of course he should be re-elected, the weak rw criticisms of him will fail.

stlsaxman

(9,236 posts)
12. excellent points from this guy. couple questions for the poster...
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 08:06 AM
Jan 2012

Is there a copy of this video that has a soundtrack on both channels? It's distracting that he comes out of only one speaker- i'm an audio-geek... it's prolly just me.

Perry and Cain are out of the primaries- the video dates itself. Can an updated version be made? Easy if you edit the bits near the end. In the 25 hour news cycle timeless points quickly become dated - or "old news".

That's all- hopefully constructive criticism for a very good video.

KNR!

mahina

(17,669 posts)
13. Good points,
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 02:04 PM
Jan 2012

perhaps you could share them with the man in the video on his blog. I bet he would be appreciative. I'm not going to edit his video, but all your points are right on.

aloha

 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
14. Did we make the right choice in '08?
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 02:46 PM
Jan 2012

The short answer is "yes". I haven't contributed to Obamas 2012 warchest. I might, but what few coins the wife and I can afford, are going to the likes of Grayson and his ilk.
I could come up with a couple hundred bucks for Obama IF...... I could have a Q&A session with him - with only ONE question. I would ask him to explain what he'd call it that he told prospective voters he'd END the war in Iraq "the day I take office". Then he put a wax seal on that promise by telling them: "You can take that to the bank." I'd remind the president that he DID have that power on January 20th of '09. And HAVING IT - he had to have made the conscious decision to NOT USE it. There's no viable "Wellllllllllll..........."

That we now get to hang our hopes on the seeming prospect of his changing his spots - I'm not judging until 2016. Now conceeding (well practiced at it too) that he was overly optomistic up to this point. What does that buy us? What does that buy us now?

What was it Bush tried to say once? "Fool me once, ah - ah - ah -ah..... Aw, you know what I mean"

rbnyc

(17,045 posts)
15. I think some of what he says is very fair...
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 02:49 PM
Jan 2012

...and many of the disappointments over the past several years are not about one man, but about how deeply sick our democracy is.

But I don’t think he’s going to win many people over by starting out with the health care fiasco. The “reform” that passed failed to do the most important thing that it needed to do, which is to make health care a human right for all and divorce it from employment. I make about $50K a year, gross – which should be enough to live on, but we are seriously struggling. My employer pays about $12K a year toward my health insurance premium and I pay about $6K a year out of my paycheck. I have no prescription plan. My co-pay to see the doctor is $40 to get in, $40 per test he has to run and a portion of the cost to run the test. I don’t have an extra $40-$100 in any given month. I can hardly afford to get my kid new gloves at the dollar store or replace the battery in our carbon monoxide detector. If my employer didn’t have to pay so much money for health insurance, we would all get raises and hire more people. This situation gets worse every year.

There are some “good” things in the bill such as expanding Medicaid to include 133 percent of federal poverty level which is $29,327 for a family of four. But think about that – I make $50K, have one kid and I fucking need help. A family of four making $30,000 is too well off to benefit from this reform.

We could have done the right thing with this bill, but we didn’t and that was a political failing.

If this is the big victory that we’re running on, we’re in trouble.

Edit to add:




 

Plucketeer

(12,882 posts)
16. Great point!
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 03:56 PM
Jan 2012

Did we do "better" with Obama than what we could have gotten? A ridiculous thing to even give real consideration to. But the DEGREE to which we "did better" - THAT'S fair game to speculate on.


Hey.... Put ME in the White House next year. Me, a retired electrician, married to a public school teacher who's losing ground as she works toward an earned and yet shrinking retirement. See what > I < do without corporate IOUs in all my pockets. See what > I < do with a daub of common sense and the past experience of living out of my pickup truck for perspective. I've got a high school diploma and an honorable discharge document and I don't know ANY Wall St. banksters to draw "advice" from.

mahina

(17,669 posts)
17. We should be able to run if we want to, without needing a personal fortune.
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 04:05 PM
Jan 2012
http://www.commoncause.org/site/pp.asp?c=dkLNK1MQIwG&b=7947723

Here we have a chapter of Common Cause, and they are a great start. Hope all DUers support and join, or even 10%. Unless we just like complaining in which case...

Nice to meet you ~ I like your thinking!

mahina

(17,669 posts)
18. I read you. We need publicly financed campaigns to get
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 04:09 PM
Jan 2012

universal single payer and change up this corrupt system.




Meanwhile, compared to what?

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rbnyc

(17,045 posts)
19. Indeed
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 05:27 PM
Jan 2012

While I do believe things would be worse with a Republican president, the presidential election is almost a red herring. We need to deal with campaign finance, lobbying, entrenched powers, and the inverted totalitarianism which is the theatre upon which we perform our little stage play of democracy. Until we remove the influence of these corruptive factors, I have trouble understanding the point of evaluating Obama. Someone may have been able to do a better job – but only by degree.

 

izquierdista

(11,689 posts)
20. When all else fails, lower your standards
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 05:30 PM
Jan 2012

That way, there's always chump change you can believe in.

Enrique

(27,461 posts)
22. voice in the wilderness?
Sun Jan 22, 2012, 06:18 PM
Jan 2012

Obamas approval rating among liberal democrats is 89%. Thats a very populated wilderness.

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