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The Bible is Not Pro-Life (Original Post) Quixote1818 Oct 2022 OP
There is more 303squadron Oct 2022 #1
Don't forget starving thousands of people Genki Hikari Oct 2022 #4
Jewish Leaders: Banning Abortion is 'Absolutely' a Violation of Religious Freedom LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2022 #2
the killed -by -god death toll in that book is astoundingly high nt msongs Oct 2022 #3
Jus remember, foreskins are people too Layzeebeaver Oct 2022 #5
There must have been pregnant women thucythucy Oct 2022 #6

303squadron

(545 posts)
1. There is more
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 01:59 AM
Oct 2022

Elisha and the two bears!
All 10 of Job's children (to win a net with the devil)
The child of Bathsheba and David
Infanticide in the Passover story - all the first born of Egypt when just killing the fucking Pharoah would have sufficed!

A world created by a omnipotent pro life diety would have zero miscarriages!!!!!!!

 

Genki Hikari

(1,766 posts)
4. Don't forget starving thousands of people
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 04:43 AM
Oct 2022

Many of whom had to be children and the "unborn," because David held a census--after he told David to take the census!

No pleasing some people!

Also, who knows how many the supposed flood wiped out? Not that the flood happened, but what a despicable concept to create a deity capable of slaughtering millions because his creation was flawed. Well, if they're flawed, who made them flawed? And don't blame the fruit or serpent for that. You were the one who put the tree and serpent there. If you didn't want your creations to eat from the tree or get bamboozled by a smooth-talking serpent, DON'T PUT THE TREE OR SERPENT THERE in the first dang place.

Would we accept excuses from parents whose house burned down after they left their kids alone in a room with matches, a gas can and only a stern admonition not to play with the matches? No, we'd condemn them for it. Might even charge them a crime for their gross negligence and lock them up.

Sheesh.

As for the deity's death toll, well here it is, all added up:

https://dwindlinginunbelief.blogspot.com/2010/04/drunk-with-blood-gods-killings-in-bible.html

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,433 posts)
2. Jewish Leaders: Banning Abortion is 'Absolutely' a Violation of Religious Freedom
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 02:22 AM
Oct 2022

Under Jewish religious law, it is clear that life begins at birth and there is no prohibition in the Torah on abortion. According to my Rabbi, the life of a fetus is only potential life and the life of the mother is more important than the life of a fetus. Alito's proposed opinion elevates Christian beliefs over Judaism.



https://jezebel.com/jewish-leaders-banning-abortion-is-absolutely-a-violat-1848885645

Conservatives—namely, white evangelical Christians—have long weaponized religious values as a shoddy defense for their decades-long conquest to criminalize abortion in the United States. But after a leaked draft of the Supreme Court’s decision to strike down Roe v. Wade sent shockwaves through the public consciousness on Monday night, a different kind of group of religious text-swinging heroes has emerged.

Coalitions of Rabbis across different sects of Judaism and a contingent of Jewish abortion activists are defending Jewish pregnant people’s right to abortion access, raising what they claim is a valid legal challenge: A national abortion ban would violate their right to religious freedom as guaranteed by the First Amendment. And as the right to bodily autonomy for women and pregnant people is threatened—largely impacting low-income Black and brown people—by conservative justices’ arguments that we should simply rewind to the good old years when women didn’t have any rights because, you know, some 17th century witch-hunter said so, Jewish communities are putting their foot down to say, “Not in my religion.”......

For evidence, Rabbi Ruttenberg points to the Book of Exodus in the Torah, which discusses a case where two men accidentally knock over a pregnant person and cause them to miscarry:

“When men fight, and one of them pushes a pregnant woman and a miscarriage results, but no other harm ensues, the one responsible shall be fined when the woman’s husband demands compensation; the payment will be determined by judges. But if other harm ensues, the penalty shall be life for life.”

The Hebrew Bible, she says, does not regard the fetus as a person, for the Torah doesn’t specify how long the woman has been pregnant when the miscarriage happens. Another annotated text states, “If she is found pregnant, until the fortieth day it is mere fluid,” meaning the fetus does not have agency for at least forty days of pregnancy. For that reason, some interpretations of Jewish law say that personhood begins with the first breath. “It’s not murder, basically, and the Talmud lays that out really explicitly,” she says.

I like the idea of a lawsuit filed on the basis of the First Amendment. Alito's draft opinion favors conservative christian theology over the faith all all or most Jews.

Layzeebeaver

(1,628 posts)
5. Jus remember, foreskins are people too
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 09:33 AM
Oct 2022

just think how many were harvested as tokens of war supported by that god

thucythucy

(8,083 posts)
6. There must have been pregnant women
Sun Oct 2, 2022, 10:52 AM
Oct 2022

in Sodom and Gemorrah.

All those fetuses were sinful, so they all had to die?

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