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Jeremy Corbyn DESTROYS The Establishment (Original Post) Gaugamela Oct 2022 OP
Jeremy Corbyn destroyed himself along with labor, and yes I watched the video JohnSJ Oct 2022 #1
+1 N/T Steven Maurer Oct 2022 #4
I don't know what the DSA is, but Corbyn's anti-Semitism really hurt Labor. Beakybird Oct 2022 #2
I still laugh at this perspective. Layzeebeaver Oct 2022 #6
There's a reason Labour only got 17% of the Jewish vote. Beakybird Oct 2022 #9
Thanks. Happy to read that. Layzeebeaver Oct 2022 #10
Democratic Socialist of America. DSA. The DSA blames NATO and the US for why Russia JohnSJ Oct 2022 #8
He's right on what needs to be done Warpy Oct 2022 #3
Whistle a jaunty tune! Behind the Aegis Oct 2022 #5
+++ JohnSJ Oct 2022 #7
So the establishment is now destroyed? Xoan Oct 2022 #11

JohnSJ

(92,372 posts)
1. Jeremy Corbyn destroyed himself along with labor, and yes I watched the video
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 12:44 AM
Oct 2022

There is very little daylight between Corbyn and the DSA

Steven Maurer

(476 posts)
4. +1 N/T
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 02:45 AM
Oct 2022

Corbyn, let me add, demands a "diplomatic solution" to the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Claiming that Ukraine should give up its sovereign right to make alliances as it sees fit as a way to appease Putin.




The only diplomatic solution acceptable is full Russian withdrawal.

Layzeebeaver

(1,631 posts)
6. I still laugh at this perspective.
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 04:03 AM
Oct 2022

Corbin was not anti-Semite. He was anti- Israel GOVERNMENT POLICY.

When you conflate the two, you play into the hands of the establishment.

And corybn did not destroy himself. He was destroyed as he explains in the video.

I live in Britain. His policies were good for the most part. His political tactics left something to be desired. He didn’t fight back effectively.

I don’t agree that peace in the Ukraine is achievable. There needs to be a strong global military and economic strategy for a long time.

However, states like Britain and Israel have long acted as client states for US, Corbyn is correct here.

It’s a good recap and the video is worth watching, especially if the viewer and expel any existing propaganda that exists in their thinking.

JohnSJ

(92,372 posts)
8. Democratic Socialist of America. DSA. The DSA blames NATO and the US for why Russia
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 07:54 AM
Oct 2022

invaded Ukraine. It wasn’t Russia’s fault, we made him do it.

Corbyn is against free enterprise, whether it is regulated or not

For those who argue that Corbyn is only against Israeli policies, not against Jews, is just smoke screen for his actual feelings, which have been demonstrated by his associations.

Corbyn doesn’t want to heal anything. He doesn’t advocate a two-state solution. He isn’t opposing specific Israeli policies. He wants Israel to not exist, and the “Jews” are just an inconvenience




Warpy

(111,332 posts)
3. He's right on what needs to be done
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 01:20 AM
Oct 2022

but absent catastrophe that destroys the ability of monopolists and billionaires to block it all, it's not likely to get done.

One thing we can be sure of, though, is that these catastrophes do happen and with sobering regularity. Young people need to think about how to prevent the sickening imbalance of entrenched power and wealth from happening again. Otherwise, the cycle will just keep on repeating over and over again.

We don't even need war or financial collapse or a meteor strike. Climate change is happening more rapidly now and that is going to put a huge wrench into the works of those who want to keep the status quo going. It hasn't been sustainable for many decades. People alive now are likely to see the wheels come off, the engine blow up, and even the movers and shakers looking for ways to survive along with everybody else.

Behind the Aegis

(53,979 posts)
5. Whistle a jaunty tune!
Tue Oct 11, 2022, 03:16 AM
Oct 2022


Yes, I lost 7 minutes of my life. While I agree with some of his points, he is NO different than politicians on the extreme right also being "persecuted." Again...

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