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TexasTowelie

(112,441 posts)
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 06:02 PM Nov 2022

Russia cuts off gas to Moldova as it moves toward Europe - DW News



Moldova gets a lot of its gas from Russia. Now, Europe's poorest country is afraid that Russian president Vladimir Putin could cut off supplies this winter, as Moldova moves closer to the European Union.
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Russia cuts off gas to Moldova as it moves toward Europe - DW News (Original Post) TexasTowelie Nov 2022 OP
Russia is trying to freeze em all into submission Deuxcents Nov 2022 #1
Putin's got to go. elleng Nov 2022 #2
Seems like the choice is pretty clear. Biophilic Nov 2022 #3
Weaponized Capitalism Farmer-Rick Nov 2022 #4
But I've been told for 70+ years that capitalism is necessary for democracy. erronis Nov 2022 #6
Yes, I believe so as has most everyone else. Uncle Joe Nov 2022 #9
it's starting to feel very arbitrary, barbtries Nov 2022 #5
Wonder if it's much different from the western oligarchs screwing the common people. erronis Nov 2022 #7
maybe, but it's much more subtle barbtries Nov 2022 #8
There may well not be a coherent plan. gordianot Nov 2022 #10

Biophilic

(3,694 posts)
3. Seems like the choice is pretty clear.
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 06:07 PM
Nov 2022

Subjugation with Putin or freedom with Europe. I honestly don’t understand how any Republican can go along with assisting Putin/Russia. Talk about people who have totally lost their way.

Farmer-Rick

(10,212 posts)
4. Weaponized Capitalism
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 06:51 PM
Nov 2022

It's just so easy to use capitalism against workers, labor, countries, governments and anyone with less wealth or power.

erronis

(15,335 posts)
6. But I've been told for 70+ years that capitalism is necessary for democracy.
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 07:04 PM
Nov 2022

Have I been lied to?

It's been hard for my brain to start to separate those two completely different concepts since I've "bought" into them from grade school.

Now I realize that "capitalism" is a sanitized word that means "winner take all". Bugger the poor.

Uncle Joe

(58,424 posts)
9. Yes, I believe so as has most everyone else.
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 07:51 PM
Nov 2022

Conditioning can be difficult to overcome because few people believe they can be conditioned.

“The best slave is the one who thinks he is free.”

― Johann von Goethe


barbtries

(28,811 posts)
5. it's starting to feel very arbitrary,
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 06:55 PM
Nov 2022

as if putin has no plan other than to cause massive suffering.

this winter is going to be brutal. it hurts just thinking about it, and feeling helpless to do anything about it.

erronis

(15,335 posts)
7. Wonder if it's much different from the western oligarchs screwing the common people.
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 07:07 PM
Nov 2022

When the top 0.1% have consolidated their holding, secured them against claw-backs from pesky governments; then I think we'll see the robber barons turning off the heat for the lower class around the world. Texas was a trial run.

barbtries

(28,811 posts)
8. maybe, but it's much more subtle
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 07:36 PM
Nov 2022

than freezing, bombing, starving and murdering people so far. for the most part anyway.

gordianot

(15,245 posts)
10. There may well not be a coherent plan.
Sun Nov 27, 2022, 09:42 PM
Nov 2022

Humans do not learn by trial and error. When reinforced by success is when they learn. Putin’s success has all involved brutality, espionage, and homicide. Putin is a reactionary and is predictable expect brutality.

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