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TexasTowelie

(127,350 posts)
Mon May 1, 2023, 04:23 AM May 2023

Proud Boys Leader Throws Trump Under The Bus During Trial - Ring of Fire



Enrique Tarrio, the former leader of The Proud Boys who is on trial for seditious conspiracy, threw Donald Trump under the bus this week during the closing arguments of the trial. Tarrio's lawyer said in his final statements that Tarrio was not the mastermind behind the Capitol Riot, but that he had become the scapegoat to protect the real culprit. The real culprit, according to the lawyer? Donald Trump himself. Ring of Fire's Farron Cousins explains why this statement could haunt Trump in the very near future.

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*This transcript was generated by a third-party transcription software company, so please excuse any typos.

Multiple members of the Proud Boys Organization are on trial right now. In fact, they've been on trial for months in the Seditious Conspiracy trial that they're facing related to their activities leading up to and including the January 6th Capitol Riot. And the former proud Boys leader, Enrique TerTarriorio is one of those individuals. And during closing statements this week, his lawyer threw Donald Trump under the bus and he threw him hard. Let me read this. This is from the closing argument of Terry's lawyer. It was Donald Trump's words. It was his motivation. It was his anger that caused what occurred on January 6th in your amazing and beautiful city. I love how he is so pan like. This is a beautiful city, and Trump just came in and crapped right all over it. It was not Enrique Tarrio. They want to use Enrique Terrio as a scapegoat for Donald Trump and those in power.

As I said, Terrio is not the only proud boy on trial right now. There's others in that same trial with other lawyers, and another lawyer for a different client said in their closing argument, the leader of the free world sold this narrative, and many members of the proud Boys believed it. People believe their president. He's not on trial here much, though I wish he were. If my president tells me my republic is being stolen, who do I listen to? The thief or the commander-in-chief, a nation of strangers gathered together as their commander-in-chief, sold a lie.

Cool argument. Doesn't change the fact of what your clients did. So even if you wanna argue that Donald Trump is behind all of this, which listen, I believe you, I agree with you, that doesn't change the fact that your clients still, you know, probably did the thing that they're accused of doing. You know, if Donald Trump went out and said, oh man, it would be great if people just started shooting each other in the head, huh? And then all of his supporters started shooting people in the head. Guess what? Um, still murder, still gonna go to jail for it. You can't be like, but your honor, like the guy at the podium said, it'd be cool if I did it. So I did. Like it doesn't matter. Totally doesn't matter in a court of law. Now, now that I've said that, lemme tell you where this does matter. Donald Trump is facing multiple different lawsuits claiming that he is liable for the injuries suffered by police officers from the Capitol Riot. So in that case, the plaintiff's lawyers are going to have to prove that Donald Trump sparked the Capitol Riot testimony, closing arguments like this that can and will be used against

Donald Trump in those civil trials. So that is why this is important. Hell, if they need to, they can call Enrique Terrio to come and be a witness for the plaintiffs. He can go out there and say, yeah, I felt that Donald Trump was instructing me to do this, so I did it. It doesn't help you in the criminal trial, but it can 100% make a world of difference in those civil trials. So I'm glad that the lawyers made these arguments, not because it helps their clients, because it doesn't, but because now that this is out there in the ether, it can be used in those trials against Trump, and that's just one extra layer that makes it more likely that Trump gets found liable for what happened that day.
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Proud Boys Leader Throws Trump Under The Bus During Trial - Ring of Fire (Original Post) TexasTowelie May 2023 OP
Interesting. Thanks for posting. But means they have no hard evidence Laura PourMeADrink May 2023 #1
+1. "I felt" or "I thought" stopdiggin May 2023 #2
IMHO yes :(. *Unless he's convinced them that he Laura PourMeADrink May 2023 #3
I myself am unsure of the degree stopdiggin May 2023 #4
I totally agree... But wouldn't a defense attorney already Laura PourMeADrink May 2023 #5
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
1. Interesting. Thanks for posting. But means they have no hard evidence
Mon May 1, 2023, 07:14 AM
May 2023

that trump instructed them to storm Capitol. Sadly, there must not have been a recording ! This reinforces it. It was a dog whistle that got heard

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
2. +1. "I felt" or "I thought"
Mon May 1, 2023, 08:06 AM
May 2023

my president was telling me to do X - is fairly flimsy stuff. Millions of others heard the same blather - and you were among a mere handful that contorted it into beating up police officers and smearing feces ...

Could be because you're a sick f*ck ...
And looking for a fight.
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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
3. IMHO yes :(. *Unless he's convinced them that he
Mon May 1, 2023, 09:09 AM
May 2023

would get in office again and pardon them? Probably long shot?

So if it wasn't orchestrated, why'd all those people meet at the Willard? Unfortunately they are all complicit so unless govt has leverage on anyone why would they incriminate themselves?

Just my opinion. Heard someone say, it's possible that it all just happened . Starting to seriously believe that

stopdiggin

(15,463 posts)
4. I myself am unsure of the degree
Mon May 1, 2023, 03:00 PM
May 2023

of 'coordination' - between different moving parts, both that day and on a more extended time frame. But that doesn't change the basic thrust of what I'm saying. Which is, "If somebody 'directed' you to storm the capital and beat up LE officers that day - then please, sir, tell us who that person is - and in what form that directive arrived in your ear."

And, saving that - we'd just as well be talking about the conversations you have with your little imaginary friends.

The Manson family thought that a Beatles song was a signal to touch off a race war. And I'm not sure if that means really anything at all - in the larger context of a rational and reasonably well grounded population.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
5. I totally agree... But wouldn't a defense attorney already
Mon May 1, 2023, 10:47 PM
May 2023

have asked that same question? I have no idea what the status is.. of insurrectionist prosecutions. Thought the leadership had already been tried... But more this week?.

Just think if it was me, and trump or surrogate like rudy asked me to storm the Cap and I had it in writing or voice, I'd be introducing that as evidence.

But hope you're right!!!.. That there's someone with a smoking gun that would rather proffer evidence than go to prison. Read judge doesn't care about trumps generic "be there" request.

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