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Pic Of The Moment: War On Christmas Update
2012: New Wingnut Complaint: The Obamas are being too Christian at Christmastime
2011: File under 'can't make this up'...Sarah Palin Slams Obama's Christmas Card
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Christmas. 
Now I finally get what they meant. Evidently, it's all about the trees... 
So now that the election is over Obama should just trying and do what he feels like. The Fox News haters don't care anyways... 
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Bo was the center piece in the 2011 Card, but no where to be seen in the 2012 Card. DEMAND A NEW CARD BE ISSUED. THE NATION NEEDS BO, SUPPORT BO. PROTEST TO THE WHITE HOUSE!!!!
Portuguese water dogs, are of recent introduction into the US, but its very close cousin, the German puddle dog (also known as a "Poodle"
served this country well during WWII":
Poodles served in the Coast Guard (which during WWII was under the Navy):
And the Army:
In the service, no fancy cuts, a cut just like Bo's
http://www.poodlehistory.org/PoodlesinWWII.HTM
A website on WWII Dogs in the US Military, mentioned the Mrs. Milton S. (Arlene) Erlanger and Roland Kilbon, a writer for the New York Sun, but ignores the breed Mrs Erlanger was best known for, the Poodle. Prejudice is huge against the poodle but the Standard Poodle (full size Poodle) was in many ways ideal. protective and tendency NOT to bark and second only to the Border Collie in train-ability. On the down side Standard Poodles are just not Attack Dogs, thus lost out to German Shepherds and the Belgian Sheep Dog (Which I have read has replaced the German Shepherd in the US Army).
Of the seven breeds Standardized in 1944, three were clearly for arctic dog sleds, the Eskimo dog, Alaskan Malamut and the Siberian Husky. Three were adopted as "Attack Dogs" i.e Silent Patrol Dogs, the Doberman Pinscher, the German Shepherd and the Belgian Sheep Dog. The Collie (Called the Farm Collie but clearly means what we call today the border collie) made the list due to the ease of training them so could be trained as a sentry dog
http://community-2.webtv.net/Hahn-50thAP-K9/K9History3/
http://www.qmmuseum.lee.army.mil/dogs_and_national_defense.htm#Origin of the War Dog Program
Side note on the above: In the above you will read of the 1944 reduction to seven breeds, one being a "Farm Collie". I have ONLY see the term "Farm Collie" used in the above WWII records, but it appear it was used due to the Movie Lassie. In the book, Lassie, Lassie was called a Collie, for Lassie in the book Lassie come Home was what we now call a Border Collie. The Movie come out just before WWII, and in the movie instead of a what had been called a Collie being used for Lassie the movie producers picked the better on film Rough Collie. Thus the Rough Collie became what people thought of when they heard the term "Collie" and thus a new name had to be found for what had use to be called a "Collie". In the 1950s, to avoid confusion the term Border Collie was adopted for what had been called the Collie and the term "Farm Collie" which I have only seen in this WWII documents, died out. It is clear that the Term "Farm Collie" was picked in an attempt to make clear that want the Army wanted was a traditional Collie, i.e. a Border Collie NOT a Rough Collie.
One last comment, what was called a "Collie" or "Farm Collie" while many would now be called "Border Collies", Australian Shepherds would also have meant that term, such dogs have the guard instinct of the German Shepherds and Belgian Sheep dog, but tends to be smaller, around 40-50 pounds as oppose to the larger Belgian Sheep Dog and German Shepherds.
Thus "Farm Collies" were a broad term to include traditional Farm dogs, for while the Border Collie (as the Collie) was already a defined breed by WWII, the Australian Shepherd was just becoming a breed (previously it appears to be a "Type" i.e. no formal papers but people breed dogs to produce dogs like the dogs parents, all Breeds first started as "Types" but as a formal registry were formed they became "breed"
.
Back to Poodles. Most Poodles apparently went to the Coast Guard, who used them effectively. The Army also used them, but the fact that Poodles had to have a hair cut as often as a GI, meant such dogs needed more care then other breeds and that seems to have been used as an excuse to cut Standard Poodles out of the list of dogs for Military service in 1944. Standard Poodles made the cuts in 1942 and 1943 (i.e. when the army cut down the breeds permitted, Standard Poodles survived till the last cut in 1944).
http://history.amedd.army.mil/booksdocs/wwii/vetservicewwii/chapter17.htm
WWII Technical Manual on War Dogs, TM 10-396 (1943)
How to select dogs for Army use (1976):
http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a031980.pdf
