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Quixote1818

(28,943 posts)
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 05:55 PM Oct 2023

"BIDEN CAN'T WIN" Cenk Uygur Confronts David Pakman With Awful Takes


Cenk and Bill Maher are just trying to go after this certain niche to separate themselves and make them sound like they are independent but they are just playing the same dishonest BS and it's getting extremely tiring. They should endorse Biden who we KNOW is our candidate and be fucking team players, then shut the fuck up.


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"BIDEN CAN'T WIN" Cenk Uygur Confronts David Pakman With Awful Takes (Original Post) Quixote1818 Oct 2023 OP
And Uygur can't serve without changing the constitution! Lunabell Oct 2023 #1
Yep........... Lovie777 Oct 2023 #2
He claims he's running to get 20%, which will somehow convince Newsom/Whitmer/etc to jump in emulatorloo Oct 2023 #10
NOBODY KNOWS WHO CENK IS Jimvanhise Oct 2023 #3
All Cenk does is try to help the GOP. OhZone Oct 2023 #4
NOT even eligible to run. Go away and STFU. onecaliberal Oct 2023 #5
This man is an utter fool. Mickju Oct 2023 #6
Very disappointing. SouthernDem4ever Oct 2023 #7
There hasn't even been a primary yet. everyonematters Oct 2023 #8
Political parties don't have a primary if the incumbent president from their party running for emulatorloo Oct 2023 #9
Really! Do you know what happened to Lyndon Johnson in 1968. everyonematters Oct 2023 #12
It is 2023 not 1968. The situation isn't analogous. Joe Biden doesn't have the political baggage LBJ emulatorloo Oct 2023 #13
I disagree on the analogy part. Probably not Cenk. everyonematters Oct 2023 #14
Who though? Currently, credible Dem candidates are supporting Biden. emulatorloo Oct 2023 #15
That's because they don't want to risk having people like you angry at them. They can just wait everyonematters Oct 2023 #16
I'm not angry though. I just am curious about learning who the unnamed alternatives to Biden are. emulatorloo Oct 2023 #17
Cenk is not eligible to be POTUS LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2023 #11
Fun fact: He's constitutionally ineligible to be President since he was born in Turkey. LetMyPeopleVote Oct 2023 #18

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
10. He claims he's running to get 20%, which will somehow convince Newsom/Whitmer/etc to jump in
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 10:50 PM
Oct 2023

Dumb idea as they support Biden for president.

I think it is probably just a gimmick for Cenk to promote his new book that he has out.

Jimvanhise

(302 posts)
3. NOBODY KNOWS WHO CENK IS
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 06:09 PM
Oct 2023

He's not on any major outlet any more. He's just on Youtube. Years ago he was on MSNBC but his last TV shows were on the long gone Current TV and on even smaller outlets. He's also a denier of the Armenian Genocide. The Democratic Party is not going to support this guy.

everyonematters

(3,433 posts)
8. There hasn't even been a primary yet.
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 08:21 PM
Oct 2023

You are saying people can't voice an opinion on who should be the nominee. Claiming that people who don't think Biden should run are not doing it in the best interest of the Democratic Party is childish. That is the reason we are speaking out and risking chastisement.


emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
9. Political parties don't have a primary if the incumbent president from their party running for
Thu Oct 12, 2023, 10:35 PM
Oct 2023

re-election.


For example the GOP doesn't have a primary if a Republican is currently in office and is running for a second term.

You should voice your opinion as much as you want, no one is going to chastise you.

That being said

_ there is no Democratic primary for the 2024 election, just as there was no GOP primary for the 2020 election.

_ Therefore, Donald Trump was the GOP 2020 candidate.

_ just as Biden is indeed the Democratic 2024 candidate.

_ Cenk is a naturalized citizen and is therefore ineligible to be President of the US. I personally believe his candidacy is a “gimmick” to promote his new book on Amazon.

Here’s his book if you want to buy it:

https://www.amazon.com/Justice-Coming-Progressives-Country-America-ebook/dp/B088DQT7D3

everyonematters

(3,433 posts)
12. Really! Do you know what happened to Lyndon Johnson in 1968.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 09:17 AM
Oct 2023

Eugene McCarthy got 42% of the vote in New Hampshire embarrassing him, and he dropped out.

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
13. It is 2023 not 1968. The situation isn't analogous. Joe Biden doesn't have the political baggage LBJ
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 11:32 AM
Oct 2023

had in ‘68. (P.S. Nixon won the election and you remember how that worked out.)

Out of curiosity though, who do you think is today’s Gene McCarthy? Cenk?

everyonematters

(3,433 posts)
14. I disagree on the analogy part. Probably not Cenk.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 11:49 AM
Oct 2023

All it will take is someone who is credible and funded. Most Democrats don't want him to run.

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
15. Who though? Currently, credible Dem candidates are supporting Biden.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 12:01 PM
Oct 2023

As for polling more than a year out from election:

_Kerry was beating Bush a year before the election.

_Obama was losing to Romney a year before the election.

And those are only a couple of examples as to why polling a year before an election are not predictive or useful.

Thanks for the conversation I appreciate it.

everyonematters

(3,433 posts)
16. That's because they don't want to risk having people like you angry at them. They can just wait
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 12:11 PM
Oct 2023

until 2028. In both those cases there was a challenger who had not been president. The voters have a solidified opinion of both candidates.
That is why the polls never change.

emulatorloo

(44,130 posts)
17. I'm not angry though. I just am curious about learning who the unnamed alternatives to Biden are.
Fri Oct 13, 2023, 01:01 PM
Oct 2023

Real names of actual people. I would like to know who the alternative candidates would be in your opinion.

Thanks!

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