This is ten years old - debate - Israel is destroying itself with its settlement policy

[malaise]

[Lonestarblue]

1. Thanks for posting. I haven't had time to watch it all, but the maps near the beginning are really

interesting. In 1948, the land was roughly equal, with the Palestinians having a bit more than Israel. The last map shows that Palestinians occupy only 22% of the land, and that was 10 years ago. I suspect that number is now in the teens since many Jewish settlers have been allowed to take Palestinian lands and homes in the West Bank. The question the first speaker asked, “Why is Israel allowing settlers to occupy land reserved for a Palestinian state is they will only have to force them to move back to Israel when such as state is established?” is interesting since ten years the two-state solution was still on the table. I think we can answer that question now. Israel never plans to give the land back or to allow a Palestinian state. That is why the UN must take the governance of the Palestinians out of Israeli hands.

I plan to bookmark and watch the rest later. Very interesting.

[Progressive dog]

2. Guess which country can and will veto

UN governance of Palestine? The Israelis need to be convinced that it is in their interest to cede land to a Palestinian state It's not going to happen as long as terrorism from "Palestine" continues.

[RocRizzo55]

3. Israel wouldn't do it

even when there were no terrorist attacks from Palestine.
Israel will NEVER give up any land to the Palestinians. Israeli administration wants the Palestinians liquidated.

[Progressive dog]

4. Israel does not want the palestinians liquoidated.

But Hamas broadcasts it's goal of eliminating all Jews.

[RocRizzo55]

5. You are looking at an old document

The current charter got rid of that years ago. Not to mention that Bibi said that he wants to get rid of the Palestinian people.

[Progressive dog]

6. Hamas showed that the old document still pertains

by their brutal terrorism against the Jews of Israel and even to visitors.

The 2017 charter accepted for the first time the idea of a Palestinian state within the borders that existed before 1967 and rejects recognition of Israel which it terms as the "Zionist enemy".[2] It advocates such a state as transitional but also advocates "liberation of all of Palestine".[14][15] The new document also states that the group doesn't seek war with the Jewish people but only against Zionism which it holds responsible for "occupation of Palestine".[16] Mashal also stated that Hamas was ending its association with the Muslim Brotherhood.[14] After a new charter was scheduled to be issued in May 2017, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's office issued a statement in which it accused Hamas of trying to fool the world and also asked it to stop its terror activities for a true change.[17]

Actions speak louder than words.

[RocRizzo55]

7. The same holds true

For the other side. Didn’t Bibi say that he would eradicate he Palestinians.

[Progressive dog]

8. No Bibi didn't