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Enrique

(27,461 posts)
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:13 PM Dec 2012

TV Christian: to AR-15-owning caller: your violent rage against Obama is patriotic


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http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/wilson-guns-are-not-problem-lack-school-prayer-problem

As a general rule, we tend not to write about the things said by those who call into the right-wing programs we monitor, as many of them tend to be isolated crackpots and the hosts themselves cannot really be held responsible for the things that callers say.

But we occasionally make exceptions for cases like this, where a caller tells AFA's Buster Wilson that he owns an AR-15 assault rifle, loathes President Obama and is absolutely fed up, warning that the government is turning him into a vigilante and that "when the bullets start flying, well, I got plenty of bullets."

Wilson's response to this caller was truly remarkable, as he declared that "those were the kind of sentiments" that were expressed by the Founding Fathers leading up to the Revolutionary War, saying that Americans "are not now willing to revert back to anarchy [and] to have our liberties stripped away from us" before blaming school shootings like Sandy Hook on lack of prayer and the Ten Commandments in our schools:
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TV Christian: to AR-15-owning caller: your violent rage against Obama is patriotic (Original Post) Enrique Dec 2012 OP
And they blasted Pres. Obama when he mentioned Arkansas Granny Dec 2012 #1
I wonder how President Obama's children react to this kind of slime ball. They don't even realize southernyankeebelle Dec 2012 #5
This idiot needs to buy a dictionary WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2012 #2
Totally! This guy had is exactly backwards 99th_Monkey Dec 2012 #6
"Anarchy". I don't think that word means what you think it means. n/t lumberjack_jeff Dec 2012 #3
Right Wing Fundamentalist Christianity is now a threat to this nation. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #4
Advocating the violent overthrow of the government is not covered by the 1st Amendment WhoIsNumberNone Dec 2012 #7
Wishing that someone else does it is. Ikonoklast Dec 2012 #8
Teh Nero No Hero Dec 2012 #9
Hey Holder! Why aren't you using the Force Acts on these terrorists? Joe Bacon Dec 2012 #10
Don't both the caller and the religious idiot deserve a visit from the FBI? savannah43 Dec 2012 #12
I am sure this religious charlatan has a tax exempt status, they all do, take it the Fuck Dustlawyer Dec 2012 #18
Got it! He changes the name of his group to Manson Family Association. All fixed! n/t Bossy Monkey Dec 2012 #11
Prayer out of the class rooms? Milliesmom Dec 2012 #13
These people sure have a wharped sense of what the American Revolution was about. Historic NY Dec 2012 #14
I'm always reminded of the original Star Trek episode where these people had the documents freshwest Dec 2012 #16
We win the arguement on guns if more sane people see freaks like this. Left Coast2020 Dec 2012 #15
I hope all these idiots fire NATO 5.56 ammo through their .223 rifles. 4bucksagallon Dec 2012 #17
Caller and the 'reverend': El Shaman Dec 2012 #19

Arkansas Granny

(31,518 posts)
1. And they blasted Pres. Obama when he mentioned
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:30 PM
Dec 2012

clinging to guns and religion. This kind of proves his point doesn't it?

 

southernyankeebelle

(11,304 posts)
5. I wonder how President Obama's children react to this kind of slime ball. They don't even realize
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:43 PM
Dec 2012

that they are encouraging violence. Shame on this man and the preacher who should of said it isn't right to talk that way. The right wing is praying and hoping someone kills this president. People in the streets will be crying and the republicans in congress will sit and say nothing. How sad this country is being torn by the right wing radio and Fox News. The left can be nasty but I don't hear or see anyone on the left encouraging people to hate republicans that we would want them dead. I pray things get better.

WhoIsNumberNone

(7,875 posts)
2. This idiot needs to buy a dictionary
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 01:54 PM
Dec 2012

He seems to think 'anarchy' = 'despotism'. I guess I shouldn't be so surprised, since right wingers think 'fascism' = 'communism'.


Anarchy is what right wingers want: No gevernment. No rules. Don't like the way someone thinks? Kill 'em.
You want anarchy? Keeps flooding the streets with guns while reducing regulation and I'll show you anarchy.

 

99th_Monkey

(19,326 posts)
6. Totally! This guy had is exactly backwards
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:43 PM
Dec 2012

equating "anarchy" with "stripping away our freedoms and liberties" is
the height of ignorance, and does violence to the very notion of language
and meaningful human communication.

Ikonoklast

(23,973 posts)
4. Right Wing Fundamentalist Christianity is now a threat to this nation.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 02:12 PM
Dec 2012

They are just shy of declaring themselves being in open revolt to the duly-elected representatives of the Federal Government.

Ant religious sect that has members advocating for the violent overthrow of the Constitutionally elected government should be placed on a domestic terrorism watch list.

This has nothing to do with freedom of speech, or freedom of religion. It has everything to do with advocating for open revolt.

Joe Bacon

(5,165 posts)
10. Hey Holder! Why aren't you using the Force Acts on these terrorists?
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 05:29 PM
Dec 2012

This asshole crossed the line. Holder needs to blow the dust off of the Force Acts of 1870, 1871 and The Ku Klux Klan Act of 1871 to shut these terrorists down.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Force_Acts

savannah43

(575 posts)
12. Don't both the caller and the religious idiot deserve a visit from the FBI?
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 06:57 PM
Dec 2012

Their blather is not free speech. But then, I'm preaching to the choir right now. Of course it isn't.

Dustlawyer

(10,495 posts)
18. I am sure this religious charlatan has a tax exempt status, they all do, take it the Fuck
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 01:07 PM
Dec 2012

away!!! The IRS needs to get all of the churches who violated their tax exempt status by advocating for a party or candidate during the election!

 

Milliesmom

(493 posts)
13. Prayer out of the class rooms?
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 07:43 PM
Dec 2012

That is not so,anyone can pray in any school, they are free to do so. However prayer didn't help all those children that were molested inside the churches.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
14. These people sure have a wharped sense of what the American Revolution was about.
Sat Dec 22, 2012, 09:35 PM
Dec 2012

they twist and play on the words w/o exactly knowing what they mean.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
16. I'm always reminded of the original Star Trek episode where these people had the documents
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:07 AM
Dec 2012
but didn't understand them and devolved into a society of teabaggerish hatred and barbarism.

The pivotal scene from The Omega Glory:



OTOH, D. James Kennedy has been spouting his revisionist history for thirty years in Florida.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._James_Kennedy

He promoted Francis Schaeffer's and his book, The Christian Manifesto which was used by the right to influence churches and GOP officials:

A number of Christian leaders, authors, and evangelists credit Schaeffer's ideas with helping spark the rise of the Christian Right in the United States and were strongly influenced by him. Among them are Operation Rescue founder Randall Terry, Focus on the Family's James Dobson, the 700 Club's Pat Robertson, Prison Fellowship's Charles Colson, columnist Cal Thomas, preacher and author Tim LaHaye, former Florida Secretary of State Katherine Harris, and Liberty University and Moral Majority founder Jerry Falwell.[2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Francis_Schaeffer

This is the basis of the zealotry on the right. Yup, it's all God's Will that they steal elections, persecute the poor, the pregnant, women, gays and all of that.

4bucksagallon

(975 posts)
17. I hope all these idiots fire NATO 5.56 ammo through their .223 rifles.
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 06:34 AM
Dec 2012

Many civilian .223's are not 5.56 NATO unless the barrel says 5.56. If they fire NATO ammo through their weapon there will probably be less of these morons around.......at least seeing morons. The differences are minute and have to due with the brass, chamber pressure and leade.
Bushmaster website is vague on this issue but it is a concern for re-loaders, and Bushmaster is now saying that their rifles can handle any 5.56 ammo, not sure that is true. I personally don't own a .223 so I have not done the research on the ballistics and variables but I do remember reading that it could be hazardous for the shooter to assume one is the same as the other. Any re-loaders of .223 here could probably tell you the differences.

El Shaman

(583 posts)
19. Caller and the 'reverend':
Sun Dec 23, 2012, 03:23 PM
Dec 2012

they both, seem like they, could use some serious 'mental health intervention' !!

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