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EarlG

(21,958 posts)
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:07 PM Jan 2013

Pic Of The Moment: How Wall Street Says "Thank You"



AIG Is Thinking About Suing the Government for Bailing It Out


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Pic Of The Moment: How Wall Street Says "Thank You" (Original Post) EarlG Jan 2013 OP
They once sold me house insurance for $350 a year. RedCloud Jan 2013 #1
I always felt . . . Brigid Jan 2013 #2
May their lawsuit be dismissed with prejudice and AIG billed for court costs. freshwest Jan 2013 #3
... SoapBox Jan 2013 #8
also what you said, except BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2013 #14
And may they flat-out fail next time. Propping up institutions like AIG is another RKP5637 Jan 2013 #20
Elizabeth Warren is on the case now. Thanks MA, and keep Brown out of Kerry's seat! freshwest Jan 2013 #21
+++ 1,000,000 +++ n/t RKP5637 Jan 2013 #22
Sore winners. klook Jan 2013 #4
Next time the US will be a slave to the banks. OnyxCollie Jan 2013 #6
Next time??? infidel dog Jan 2013 #16
Oh, it'll happen again. Brigid Jan 2013 #17
True. Sadly, the U.S. has been a bankster slave state for a very long time... infidel dog Jan 2013 #18
Speechless. gateley Jan 2013 #5
No good deed goes unpunished. pscot Jan 2013 #13
It's actually worse than that. longship Jan 2013 #7
You know, this was a no-brainer. We told them to put these criminals in jail. It's not to grahamhgreen Jan 2013 #9
Thieves will be thieves. Amonester Jan 2013 #10
NOW can we stop treating these monsters like special little snowflakes? Please?? Nay Jan 2013 #11
they must be pissed barbtries Jan 2013 #12
AIG deserves criminal charges levied against them. Period. Dont call me Shirley Jan 2013 #15
Shirley you jest. If you are caught dispensing medical MaryJane, charges will be levied. rhett o rick Jan 2013 #19
Hey, AIG! KansDem Jan 2013 #23

Brigid

(17,621 posts)
2. I always felt . . .
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:24 PM
Jan 2013

that Obama agreed to the bailout while holding his nose, and only because he feared that not to do so would lead to a full-blown depression both here and even abroad. I wonder now if he feels he made a mistake.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
3. May their lawsuit be dismissed with prejudice and AIG billed for court costs.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:30 PM
Jan 2013
Sorry, you ain't royalty yet.

Kiss off.



BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
14. also what you said, except
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:02 PM
Jan 2013

I would be a little more....gritty about it.

They can fuck off. With a rusty yacht mast.

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
20. And may they flat-out fail next time. Propping up institutions like AIG is another
Wed Jan 9, 2013, 09:22 AM
Jan 2013

reason this country is consistently in such a mess. And, "we the people" often have little voice. I would have let them fail, as painful as it might have been, but in the long run we would have been stronger with diversification. NO institution should be allowed to grow so big it's too big to fail. That, is an absurd way to manage an economy. ... diversification adds strength. And with AIG back ... it will happen again.

klook

(12,160 posts)
4. Sore winners.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:36 PM
Jan 2013

Lesson learned: Next time we make stringent regulation a part of any bailout package.

The notion that these crooks even have the ability to sue the U.S. government over the terms of the loans is ridiculous. They should be grateful they weren't liquidated or regulated into oblivion.

 

OnyxCollie

(9,958 posts)
6. Next time the US will be a slave to the banks.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:50 PM
Jan 2013

Why do you think BoA moved trillions of derivatives from its investment division to its FDIC-insured commercial banking division?

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. It's actually worse than that.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 02:57 PM
Jan 2013

AIG sold credit default swaps on a huge number of mortgages. If the mortgage goes into default, the insurance would pay off. AIG basically bet their company that the housing market would never, ever go down.

Wall Street wrapped those swaps into more mortgage bonds, on which AIG insured with yet more swaps. And it was all legal.

As soon as property values went down mortgages went into default, AIG ended up having to pay off all those CDS on thousands of subprime mortgages, all at once. It took no time at all for them to have a larger than 50 billion dollar hole.

The guy who was most responsible for this was Joseph Cassano. Basically one guy crashed the whole world economy.

Recommended reads:
The Big Short: Inside the Doomsday Machine, by Michael Lewis. Tells the story of several people in the background who saw what was happening. A really great read.

Too Big to Fail by Andrew Ross Sorkin. History of the Lehman failure and the TARP bailout. Not as readable as Lewis, and not exactly portraying a liberal POV. But it contains essential info on what went down after Bear Stearns fell.

 

grahamhgreen

(15,741 posts)
9. You know, this was a no-brainer. We told them to put these criminals in jail. It's not to
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 03:26 PM
Jan 2013

late to prosecute.

Amonester

(11,541 posts)
10. Thieves will be thieves.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:08 PM
Jan 2013

Even after they've "purchase" legality...

Oh, but they "create" jobs!

Lawyers. Check.
Accountants. Check.
Janitors. Check.
Whatelse?

barbtries

(28,808 posts)
12. they must be pissed
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 04:21 PM
Jan 2013

that their bonuses aren't ridiculously huge.
Greed - it will take down the human race.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
19. Shirley you jest. If you are caught dispensing medical MaryJane, charges will be levied.
Tue Jan 8, 2013, 06:57 PM
Jan 2013

If you are a bank, you are the elite that runs the country. Democracy in America is a sham.

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