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(13,485 posts)Why? People make shit decisions all the time, even long lasting ones. He'll get what he gets from it, good or bad.
Hate?
ErikJ
(6,335 posts)with his Live Strong organization. Being a cancer victim himself maybe that was his original intent. Even if he had to cheat.
MotherPetrie
(3,145 posts)MichaelHarris
(10,017 posts)jb5150
(1,183 posts)Hate....no
Why Syzygy
(18,928 posts)But that is because he used his public platform to support GW. Now we know. All that extra oxygen in the blood, one would think he could think more clearly.
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graham4anything
(11,464 posts)and Lance to me is like a terrorist or the lowest of cowards
Hiding behind children and women.
His charity was like a front for his crimes.
The mafia is more humane than he is.
And his dumping of Sheryl Crow shortly after she developed breast cancer, well, that showed that there is no bigger asshole (let alone he cheated on her and all that too).
Hate?
How could anyone love or hate someone no one knew at all.
Like a paid assasssin he was.
Cold
calculated
rich
Lance was the 1% who stole from the 99%.
At least Bernie Madoff had a heart and was loyal to his spouse.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)tblue
(16,350 posts)I'm really really not emotional about the whole controversy. He's getting punished plenty already. I honestly do not care.
Boomerproud
(7,964 posts)If I never hear about it again I won't care. Let him go his way and I'll go mine.
ashling
(25,771 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)dime.
barbiegeek
(1,140 posts)did they make a stamp or something?
MADem
(135,425 posts)He's "offered" to give back five of it. What brass! Fuck him! Send him to jail, take every last dime, and give that money back to the USPS. With interest, if he's got the dough.
barbiegeek
(1,140 posts)MADem
(135,425 posts)Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)than to hold a grudge with somebody who I don't even know personally.
avebury
(10,952 posts)There are just more important things to worry about. I do think, however, that he should have to pay back all of the money to the USPS.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Uben
(7,719 posts)How can you hate someone you do not know? I certainly think he is a cheater and I have no respect for him at all. I do think he should be stripped of all the money he earned while cheating, and I think he should remain banned forever from the sport. He should be made an example of for his dishonesty. He can whine all he wants, but he is a cheater, not a winner. Cheaters can never be winners....ever! His mom used to have a home here in this small Texas community, but I never met her...that I know of.
So, my dear Lance, take your medicine, stop the whining, and beg for forgiveness from the American people for representing yourself as a legitimate athlete when you were nothing more than a cheating scumbag. I don't hate him, but I would not want him in my house. If you'll cheat, you'll steal, and I DO not like thieves.
madlefty
(37 posts)MynameisBlarney
(2,979 posts)but I am rather disappointed that he did what did. And then lied and lied and lied about it.
KurtNYC
(14,549 posts)so I how could I possibly care who wins. All the doping accusations and denials put Armstrong in the news and now that he has admitted cheating there is nothing left for him except the lawsuits and infamy.
plethoro
(594 posts)from the very first accusation. But I like him marginally better than Oprah.
I hate ESPN.
2naSalit
(86,780 posts)That just feeds the civic batsh*t crazy mindset of the sports cabal... for starters. One might consider that he was not the only doper on the tour or any other race, it's the norm. This is about the same as pointing a finger at our government and picking one individual and saying that they got into office by taking contributions from corporate entities.
So he had a plan that worked for him, it isn't like he was competing against non-dopers in all those races for heaven's sake. And he did something worthwhile with his notoriety, he founded "Livestrong" ...a very worthy cause that has helped countless people.
I am not calling him out for doping and covering it up, as he's not alone there. What I lament more is that our society requires inhumane physical abilities in our sports entertainment while people like him make it their life, and that when they are found to be not in keeping with our puritan ideologies we publicly skewer them to ruination. When someone does succeed within the confines of our puritan expectations, nobody seems to notice. And whenever I did watch the tour, I was rooting for him.
2na.
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)I don't give a damn. The same people who are shouting the loudest about how outraged they are were jumping all over his bandwagon.
I wonder what cheating and lying they are doing right now. In the scheme of things this not the most important thing to focus on in my book.
RebelOne
(30,947 posts)Flashmann
(2,140 posts)No....Not at all.....I never gave two shits about him one way or another,in his hey day...Still don't.....
Kalidurga
(14,177 posts)Lance isn't the problem. The problem is the culture that he was in. Lots of dopers, they should try to get more of them, but they won't. It's funny that the people trying to get Lance relied on the word of admitted dopers. The outrage shouldn't be did he dope. But what kind of system supported his doping.
Also how does this square with the legalization of most drugs? If this was legal how big a deal would it be? I think it's unhealthy so I would't advise anyone to do it. But, if they do it they shouldn't be demonized. Change the culture and there will be less doping.
longship
(40,416 posts)He has no morals. He should surrender every penny he's earned by his dishonesty.
But, no. I do not hate him. He is too pathetic for that.
However, he's well worthy of malignment and should suffer the scourge of being cast into celebrity oblivion. After the Oprah deal his publicist should call him and say, "I'm sorry, Lance. Nobody wants you any longer. And, no. There are no book deals prospects either."
The best thing for this scum is oblivion from the public sphere where people won't even acknowledge him.
tularetom
(23,664 posts)There are too many other things I'd rather spend my time thinking about.
However, contempt isn't too strong a word for what I feel when I hear his name.
I thought the guy was a phony years before he was ever accused of doping.
I thought he was a creep when he dumped Sheryl Crow.
I thought he was an asshole when he sued the USADA and threatened defamation suits against people who accused him of doping.
And I'm afraid his current confession tour is being done to promote a future book or movie project.
What I want is for him to just go the fuck away and not ever have to hear his name ever again.
butterfly77
(17,609 posts)especially this: "I'm afraid his current confession is being done to promote a future book or movie project".
upaloopa
(11,417 posts)customerserviceguy
(25,183 posts)for letting him trick me into becoming interested in a marginal sport that had me fascinated just because he could beat the French at it, on their own turf.
I guess I feel like the guy who finally figured out that "pro" wrestling was fake.
marble falls
(57,223 posts)bowens43
(16,064 posts)seriously , why would anyone care?