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JohnyCanuck

(9,922 posts)
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 09:49 AM Feb 2013

Dr. Woody Monte (university of Arizona) explains why Aspertame is harmful to human health

Natural health physician Dr. Joseph Mercola interviews Dr. Woodrow Monte, professor emeritus at Arizona State University in food and chemistry, to help you understand some of the toxicities of methanol as it relates to aspartame, one of the most commonly used artificial sweeteners in the world.

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Dr. Woody Monte (university of Arizona) explains why Aspertame is harmful to human health (Original Post) JohnyCanuck Feb 2013 OP
Dr. Mercola is not trusted in the scientific community. Quixote1818 Feb 2013 #1
Is the Professor also not trusted? PADemD Feb 2013 #2
Dr. Mercola chery picked him and as usual with Mercola there is no debate just one side Quixote1818 Feb 2013 #3
A what makes you think "Quackwatch" is a trust-worthy source? drokhole Feb 2013 #6
Thats just one site Quixote1818 Feb 2013 #10
I don't know if it's just me or what, but I listened to about 8 minutes of this truth2power Feb 2013 #4
In research, Aspartame is seen in some writings to be written as, " Rumsfeld's Poison". DhhD Feb 2013 #8
Why would anyone use it? PennyK Feb 2013 #5
How were the law suites against the makers of Aspartame settled? DhhD Feb 2013 #7
I used aspartame uneventfully for decades, then kestrel91316 Feb 2013 #9
I have a cautionary tale. UtahLib Feb 2013 #11
In a nutshell....... JohnyCanuck Feb 2013 #12

Quixote1818

(28,940 posts)
3. Dr. Mercola chery picked him and as usual with Mercola there is no debate just one side
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:00 AM
Feb 2013

The methanol produced by the metabolism of aspartame is absorbed and quickly converted into formaldehyde and then completely converted to formic acid, which, due to its long half life, is considered the primary mechanism of toxicity in methanol poisoning. The methanol from aspartame is unlikely to be a safety concern for several reasons. The amount of methanol in aspartame is less than that found in fruit juices and citrus fruits, and there are other dietary sources for methanol such as fermented beverages. Therefore, the amount of methanol produced from aspartame is likely to be less than that from natural sources. With regards to formaldehyde, it is rapidly converted in the body, and the amounts of formaldehyde from the metabolism of aspartame is trivial when compared to the amounts produced routinely by the human body and from other foods and drugs. At the highest expected human doses of consumption of aspartame, there are no increased blood levels of methanol or formic acid,[10] and ingesting aspartame at the 90th percentile of intake would produce 25 times less methanol than would be considered toxic.[61]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aspartame_controversy

drokhole

(1,230 posts)
6. A what makes you think "Quackwatch" is a trust-worthy source?
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:38 AM
Feb 2013

He has a pretty long and vicious take-down of the "biological" dentistry pioneered by Weston A Price. Meanwhile, research is coming out today that vindicates precisely what Price concluded and advocated. And it has to deal with the increasing understanding and recognition of the importance of the microbes we co-evolved with:

Sequencing ancient calcified dental plaque shows changes in oral microbiota with dietary shifts of the Neolithic and Industrial revolutions

Ancient Teeth Bacteria Record Disease Evolution

Quixote1818

(28,940 posts)
10. Thats just one site
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:57 PM
Feb 2013

You can go to Snopes, Dr. Dean Edell or any number of places on the net that are geared toward real science and trial and error. Looking at his patients reviews at the link above is enough to scare me away. He seems like a con-artist trying to sell his crap to anyone who he can scare into using it. He has his opinions just like creation scientists have their opinions but they are NOT backed up by mainstream science and peer review, period!

http://skeptoid.com/episodes/4127

European countries and every other country in the world have approved aspartame:

truth2power

(8,219 posts)
4. I don't know if it's just me or what, but I listened to about 8 minutes of this
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:02 AM
Feb 2013

and it seemd like Dr. Monte had a lot of trouble just getting to the point.

That said, wasn't Donald Rumsfeld affiliated, somehow, witht the Aspartame industry? Maybe I'm not remembering correctly.

For myself, I stay away from all those artificial sweeteners. I don't think any of them are good for you. Just a personal decision.

PennyK

(2,302 posts)
5. Why would anyone use it?
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 11:35 AM
Feb 2013

I switched to Splenda years ago. Tastes just like sugar. It may not be safe either but aspartame is def a poor second.

DhhD

(4,695 posts)
7. How were the law suites against the makers of Aspartame settled?
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:07 PM
Feb 2013

Pectin also bounds low density cholesterol in the blood stream.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
9. I used aspartame uneventfully for decades, then
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:13 PM
Feb 2013

several years ago after a severe flu-like illness (fever and horrible aches) I developed a sensitivity to it. It was giving me severe enough heart palpitations (ventricular premature contractions) that I wound up in the ER. Drs couldn't figure it out, but I eventually did.

I quit using aspartame and they completely went away. But I can bring them back anytime by consuming 2 diet cokes a day for 2 or 3 days.

I don't think it's a bad product. i just can't use it anymore. I prefer Splenda now anyway.

FWIW

UtahLib

(3,179 posts)
11. I have a cautionary tale.
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 12:59 PM
Feb 2013

I don't know how common it mght be but I have a severe reaction to anything containing aspartame. It causes my tongue to swell. I'm not overly fond of sweets, so when sugar is called for in a recipe, I use it in the raw form.


edit: spelling

JohnyCanuck

(9,922 posts)
12. In a nutshell.......
Mon Feb 18, 2013, 10:08 PM
Feb 2013

Here is the explanation from Dr. Mercola's web site:

Aspartame is primarily made up of aspartic acid and phenylalanine. The phenylalanine has been synthetically modified to carry a methyl group, which provides the majority of the sweetness.

That phenylalanine methyl bond, called a methyl ester, is very weak, which allows the methyl group on the phenylalanine to easily break off and form methanol. This is in sharp contrast to naturally occurring methanol found in certain fruits and vegetables, where it is firmly bonded to pectin, allowing the methanol to be safely passed through your digestive tract.

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Methanol acts as a Trojan horse; it's carried into susceptible tissues in your body, like your brain and bone marrow, where the alcohol dehydrogenase (ADH) enzyme converts it into formaldehyde, which wreaks havoc with sensitive proteins and DNA.

All other animals have a protective mechanism that allows methanol to be broken down into harmless formic acid, but according to aspartame expert Dr. Woodrow Monte, there's a major biochemical problem with methanol in humans, because of the difference in how it's metabolized compared to in all other animals. This is why toxicology testing on animals is a flawed model. It doesn't fully apply to humans.

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2013/02/18/aspartame-toxic-effects.aspx?e_cid=20130218_DNL_art_1&utm_source=dnl&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=20130218
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