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(113,336 posts)and they all flew!!
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(6,362 posts)MuseRider
(34,111 posts)I hope I never have to be without at least 2 of them for the rest of my life. Joyful and fun and smart.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)Could you tell me more about goats? Are they smart? Will they come to you when you call them? Do they like to be pet? Do they smell?
Thanks!
MuseRider
(34,111 posts)but quickly since they are outside, fine in the cold but need their food! One of them has no molars, something happened to his jaw a few years back so I make them smoothies out of alfalfa and timothy cubes . He needs that several times a day.
They are very smart. Very cautious and very smart. I would say they are at least as smart as my dogs or horses. They can be trained to do things if you have the time or desire. Yes, they do come to you when you call them. They know their names and lots of words like cookie, pen, no, come here you silly etc. The petting depends a little. One of mine was raised by hand and grew up in a box next to the breeders bed at night. He can never get enough . The other was pulled out of a herd (not my choice, these were gifts) and it took him a while to get into things. He does love being scratched and brushed and rubbed but he does not look for it like the other does. Mine are both males, I will always have males because most of them go straight to slaughter as soon as they are big enough. I do not eat meat and it makes me sad so I will do this. The boys stink. As they get older they stink more. It is really horrible BUT, it stops once they are castrated. The vet school told me they would live longer if I lived with the stink about a year so their urinary tract would be big enough to handle stones as they get older. That kills a lot of them apparently. So they smelled really horrible for a while.
Except for the one with the jaw problems and the lost molars they have been easy to care for and so much fun. I have an irrational love for them, just a bond I think but it is solid. Sadly they are 10, getting toward the end of their lives.
I do not have full sized goats, I would assume they are much alike.
Wordy? I could go on and on. I dearly love my boys. If you have more questions I would be very happy to answer when I get finished with the mid day chores.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)Have seen the videos with the cute baby goats non-stop jumping so I was intrigued as to what they're like.
Would love to own a farm with a few animals like horses, cows, goats and lots of dogs some day.
Oh yeah, and maybe a couple of elephants and a couple of cheetahs.
MuseRider
(34,111 posts)That's what I did. Most of my family was dead before I was 50. There was not a lot of money but enough for me to buy a cheap but very nice 54 acres and build a barn for my horses. We now live on it with 5 horses, 2 goats, 2 dogs and 5 cats and numerous other creatures that I care for when they need it. It is one of the best things I ever did but at my growing age it is getting rather difficult. We have not replaced dogs when they have passed we used to have 5, I used to have 7 horses but 2 have passed, and the cats are all ferals who tamed down enough to come inside except for 1 (there is never a shortage of them) but I will replace the goats. Must have goats.
I used to be a zookeeper back when I was much younger. I think I would pass on both the cheetahs and the elephants. Elephants are wonderful, dear creatures but have you ever seen the volume of food they take in and put out? LOL, that is a lotta work there.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)I was only half joking when I said elephants and cheetahs. I think.
Yeah, I wish I could afford a small farm in California, but land is more expensive there. May I ask where you live? You don't have to be too specific by the way. Do you grow anything?
MuseRider
(34,111 posts)lots of land here. It used to be really cheap and I bought in an area that was not exactly where most people moving out (with their McMansions) wanted to be so that helped a lot.
Against all manner of farmer advise I am keeping a lot of wooded areas so my pastures are smaller than they used to be but I am happier so...good trade. I grow brome hay, it was here when I bought it so changing it would be better since it is not native and requires more work but that is way too expensive. I keep my animals in hay and use the rest to pay for the fertilizer, weed killer (I am very judicious with both) and the hay man with the big machines to cut and bale it and take it away. Lots of barter there.
awesomerwb1
(4,268 posts)You sound very happy, that's fantastic. Thank you for answering my silly questions.
MuseRider
(34,111 posts)there is nothing silly about your questions.
TomVilmer
(1,832 posts)... since I often was milking the goats early in the morning, and the smell stayed with me all day. But it was a nice way to wake up, since they were so happy to get that heavy milk tapped of - most of them gave me a goat kiss as a Thank You. The big guy had to be shown who was the boss. A solid metal pan hammered with full force against his enormous horns, and he became gentle as a lamb. The little ones played in the forest all summer, climbing the tall trees. And come running, if they could sense I brought them pop corn. In the Autumn I would leave the house for the weekend, and when I came back there was no more youngsters, but the freezer would be full. I could not stay for that work myself - but they had a fun summer.
Lithos
(26,403 posts)How much land do you need for them? Also, what kind of entertainment (interest items) do they need?
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MuseRider
(34,111 posts)We have them in an 8x10 shed with a 20x20 area fenced by chain link. We also added a top to the outdoor pen to keep bobcats from getting in and I dug in enough area on the outside and inside and put flat concrete blocks so it is hard for the coyotes to dig in. Been working perfectly. During the day when I am around to pay attention to them they are out running around. They stay close to the house (that is good and bad as you can imagine what my front porch looks like!) and are able to explore places that rarely have creatures out during the day that hurt them and close enough I would hear or the dogs would if there was a problem. I guess I would say to look around the Internet, there is lots of info there. The neighbor just got 7 of them and put them all in a pen the size of mine and they never get out. I am not crazy about that myself. Mine go on walks around the farm with me where I let my inner Sound of Music out and sing the goatherd song. Mine find entertainment by all of those things and I have a rock wall they enjoy jumping on and off of. Area would depend on if you have little breeds or big breeds. Again, on the Internet there are so many ideas for keeping them happy. The love to climb and jump. Mine have a children's playhouse in their pen that they like to hide in.
I think they need more than a lot of them ever get, it depends if you are using does for milk or not. There are not a lot of people with neutered males around here, the boys get slaughtered as soon as they are big enough unless they are good breeding stock. I got, and always will get the boys as babies and save as many as I can.
Neema
(1,151 posts)They are such sweet and happy little beings. And the babies, oh, I can't get enough. Very few things in this world are cuter than baby goats.
They are still awesome when they are older and grumpy. They make life worth taking a lot of crap. You can always come home and be with your goats.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)over the eons of time
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)Bayard
(22,099 posts)I'm down to one 12 yr. old female pygmy though. Dancer. She and her twin brother, Dasher, were born on my farm in CA close to xmas. They would sit in your lap and ride on your shoulder when they were tiny. Dash died before I left CA.
Their mom, Sophie, died of botulism last year here in KY, at a fine old age. I had no idea it was so prevalent in this area. Lost my year old male pygmy, Sundance, soon after to the same thing. And then my mini-donkey. It was a heartbreaking month. Everyone was vaccinated, including horses, in a hurry.
Got a gorgeous little Nigerian Dwarf then to keep Dancer company. A blue-eyed sweetheart. All vaccinations and everything else, but she suddenly sickened and died. The vet was stumped. Could have been some weird parasite, even though she'd been wormed.
I'm waiting till spring, and then will try a few more Nigerians. They have the BEST temperments, and are so tiny. You can pick them up and carry them around. And all of them have known their names, and come running for treats.
I was going to add pics, but photobucket isn't working, and I haven't uploaded to Imgur yet.
Motley13
(3,867 posts)they would jump into the loft of the barn. They would try to get the tobacco out of his pocket, entertaining animals,