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in 1947. Also, maybe it wasn't really a flying saucer. But many people, good people, are talking about this. On both sides. I wouldn't know, myself.
No Details of Flying Disc Are Revealed
Roswell Daily Record, July 8, 1947, announcing the "capture" of a "flying saucer"
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On July 8, 1947, Roswell Army Air Field (RAAF) public information officer Walter Haut issued a press release stating that personnel from the field's 509th Operations Group had recovered a "flying disc", which had crashed on a ranch near Roswell. As described in the July 9, 1947 edition of the Roswell Daily Record,
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dameatball
(7,396 posts)red dog 1
(27,792 posts)I've seen that before, and it's still just as funny.
Pat Byrnes' cartoons are published regularly by The New Yorker.
For a serious read about Roswell, check out
"The Day After Roswell"
By Philip Corso
mahatmakanejeeves
(57,376 posts)for this thread.
Thanks for writing.
red dog 1
(27,792 posts)Today, July 8th, 2018, the 71st anniversary of Roswell, is an especially appropriate day to repost it.
Thanks again!
Archae
(46,312 posts)Corso claimed North Korea and North Vietnam had hundreds of US soldiers still as prisoners, during the 1980's.
While it made for good action movies like "Rambo 2," Corso was never able to provide any actual evidence, and it was found out he had fabricated any evidence he did claim.
Corso also claimed we only got Velcro from the alien Roswell ship, even though Velcro was invented in 1941. NOT after 1947.
"Swiss electrical engineer George de Mestral invented his first touch fastener when, in 1941, he went for a walk in the woods and wondered why Burdock seeds cling to his coat and dog."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velcro
The Roswell incident was deliberately lied about, since it was a CIA program to spy on the USSR.
red dog 1
(27,792 posts)soldiers still as prisoners" but right about the Roswell claims?
Also, I could find no evidence of Corso claiming that "we only got Velcro from the alien Roswell ship"
What is your source for this claim?
In his book, "The Day After Roswell" (co-author William J. Birnes), Corso did claim that reverse engineering of artifacts recovered from the Roswell crash site "indirectly led to the development of accelerated particle beam devices, fiber optics, lasers, integrated circuit chips and Kevlar material."
Also, other authors have written books about the Roswell-Corona crash that more or less tell the same story as Corso did, including:
- "The Roswell Incident" by Charles Berlitz and William Moore (1980)
- "UFO Crash at Roswell" by Kevin Randle and Donald Schmitt (1991)
- "The Truth about the UFO Crash at Roswell, also by Randle and Schmitt (1994)
- "Crash at Corona" by Stanton Friedman and Don Berliner (1992)
- "The Roswell Legacy" by Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr.and Linda Marcel (2007)
(There are several You Tube videos about this book and at least one interview with
Dr. Jesse Marcel Jr)
Are they all liars too?
BTW, Stanton Friedman wrote the forward to "The Roswell Legacy" and described Dr. Marcel as a courageous man who "set a standard for honesty and decency and telling the truth."
Archae
(46,312 posts)They fail. Every damn time.
A few of them are deluded, but the rest are in it to pander to the suckers. For money.
I used to be a "FTB," but as actual science programs and books looked at the fakes, con artists and delusionals, it became painfully obvious, guess what! Flying saucer stories are 100% bullshit.
And Roswell is one of them.
It was a deliberate scheme by the CIA and US Air Force to plant BS in the media, to cover up a then-top secret spy gizmo program, spying on the USSR.
And Phil Corso cashed in big time.
red dog 1
(27,792 posts)Your statement, "Phil Corso cashed in big time"," may be true.
You never did say what your source was for Corso claiming that Velcro came from the Roswell crash.
I'm not defending Corso;.. I only noted that he's far from being the only writer or researcher who ever concluded that a UFO did crash in New Mexico in 1947, shortly after Truman ordered
H-Bomb tests there.
IMO, it's possible that two UFOs crashed near Roswell in July 1947 (one closer to Corona, NM)
However, Stanton Friedman, was a nuclear physicist for 14 years and "worked on advanced, classified programs on nuclear aircraft, fission and fusion rockets, and compact nuclear power plants for space operations."
Friedman's professional affiliations have included the American Nuclear Society, the American Physical Society, the American Institute of Aeronautics and Astronautics, and AFTRA.
He has published more than 80 UFO-related papers, has provided written testimony to Congressional hearings, and appeared twice at the United Nations.
Have you ever "provided written testimony to Congressional hearings" or "appeared at the United Nations"?
Have you ever written any "UFO-related papers"?
What ARE your credentials?
As far as I'm concerned, you seem to merely be a "UFO debunker"..just like that jackass who calls himself "The Amazing Randi"
(I'm not implying that you're a jackass)