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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-sussex-44829266/st-leonards-couple-wed-after-groom-plans-surprise-weddingSt Leonards couple wed after groom plans surprise wedding
A woman from Sussex has married her partner of 17 years after he organised the whole wedding in secret.
Lesley Morgan from St Leonards believed she was bridesmaid for some friends who were renewing their vows.
It turned out she was the bride.
13 Jul 2018
Personally, I think I might have walked out at the presumption; unless it had been a source of conversation. But to just do that? Sounds like a controlling domineering act to me.
MaryMagdaline
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(52,164 posts)it's also possible that they had the wedding and will follow up with the formal paperwork later.
it's also possible that the paperwork was actually done ahead of time and that the *marriage* was not a surprise, only the *wedding*.
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(52,164 posts)certainly could be controlling and domineering, nothing to rule that out.
it would more clearly be so if they only knew each other briefly.
after 17 years, who knows. maybe she was saying no all along, but he knew she wouldn't make a scene. controlling and manipulative.
on the other hand, maybe he was saying no all along and also knew she loves surprises.
harder to say given the time frame.
certainly one way to take the pre-wedding jitters out of the equation!
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)And she doesnt get to plan her own wedding? Somewhat of a killjoy. Nevertheless, best of luck and much love to them.
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(52,164 posts)on the other hand, some people hate planning such things. i hope this was exactly what she wanted. but yeah, best of luck and much love to them in any event.
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)TexasBushwhacker
(20,160 posts)A man does it and there will be people who find it charming and romantic. If a woman did it they would think she's a clingy, headcase.
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)I suppose we are to assume the woman wants marriage and not the man. Who knows, there could be another marriage out there not yet dealt with. (Sorry, big fan of Sweet Home, Alabama).
TexasBushwhacker
(20,160 posts)is if the partner who has been reluctant to marry is the one who plans the surprise wedding.
PassingFair
(22,434 posts)She had asked him to marry her three times in 17 years. She was thrilled by what he did!
mythology
(9,527 posts)Generic Brad
(14,274 posts)It was out of necessity. She was overseas and we set a date close to a year out but then we ran into delays with getting a fiancee visa. By the time she arrived we already had guests flying in which forced us to honor the original date. She was not fluent enough in English back then to make arrangements either. Our goal was to simply get married while our guests were in town. So we went rogue and had a memorable beach wedding with no official venue booked. But we pulled off a ceremony, a dinner, and some dancing with minimal planning. The entire day was spontaneous and we didn't know what we were going to do from one moment to he next. But in the end we were married and have been for more than 30 years.
We have never been to a wedding that was as much fun as ours was.
FakeNoose
(32,613 posts)Since your bride was already committed to the marriage, it was just some of the details that needed to be worked out.
In the OP's case, things are a little different. The way this was written we don't know if the bride was interested or willing. So the guy was really taking a lot for granted. I guess if she didn't want to marry him, this wouldn't have become a news story.
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)put it together on the fly. It sounds like it was memorable, indeed.
DFW
(54,328 posts)I was already well into my job's "every-day-a-different-country" routine, and my wife-to-be was settled into her life as a social worker in Germany. My brother, back in Washington, was determined to keep his S.O., but she was from Japan, and thought wicked smart, as a woman in Japan in 1981, had probably reached the end of the line in career advancement as a bank teller. He wanted her to come to live with him in the States, and she was all for it. But to do that, she would have to become a U.S. citizen because he could not maintain his security clearance level living with a foreign citizen. So, they planned to get married. That allowed her to become a US citizen and live in Washington, and he got to keep his security clearance. So, they set the wedding for April 1982 in northern Virginia.
When the date was set, he called me up where I was at the time (Boston), and asked if I wanted to be best man at a wedding. Hell yeah (DUH). I said I'd call up my girlfriend in Germany and see if she could make it, too. He said, well, hey, if you both will be there, we could make it a double wedding. I said that sounded like a cool idea (no arrangements!!!!!YESSSSS!!!), and I'd run it by her. So I grabbed the next phone and called her up. I told her my brother and his Japanese girlfriend were getting married next year in Washington, and would she like to come? Natürlich! I then casually mentioned his other idea, and she said, sure, works for me.
Not exactly the most romantic of proposals, but after 8 years together, it was clear to us that we didn't want to be with anyone else. So, we had a double wedding. Looked like the United Nations, and the Washington press called it the Axis wedding, since the brides were from Japan and Germany.
Talk about set in our ways, the only one of the four of us who made a serious career move since then was my brother's wife. He's still doing his hi-tech top secret whatever-it-is, and I'm still doing my insane schedule. My wife retired from her job as a social worker, and so now with all her free time? She tutors immigrant kids, works tirelessly with the Save the Children local chapter, and runs back and forth to northern Germany to care for her 91 year old mom who was at death's door a month ago, but apparently thought better of it, and has bounced back to almost normal. Getting to hold and hear her first great-grandchild turned out to be a far more powerful dose of medicine than anything the hospital had in their cabinet.
Oh, and my sister-on-law, the Japanese bank teller? Within something like four years of moving to Washington, she was vice-director of the World Bank. Her area of responsibility? Asia, of course. This is not the US military, where fluency in Arabic, as often as not, ends up with getting you a posting in the Aleutian Islands, or some such place. But this WAS Reagan's America still, and the director of the World Bank wanted some girlfriend of his to have the Asia desk. He eventually mobbed and forced my sister-in-law out, gave her some kind of über-generous severance package so she wouldn't make a stink about it. My dad was a hotshot of the Washington print press, and the World Bank director knew it. So, with a wave and a finger (and a chunk of change), she left, and, like my "retired" wife, has less free time than before.
Anyhow, so while I didn't exactly spring "our" wedding on my wife as a complete surprise, my brother sort of sprang the idea on us somewhat spontaneously. But that was over 36 years ago and we're all still together, so it's all good.
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)is that you asked her. You didn't assume she would do what you wanted and didn't give her a choice. That's respect and love. I think that guy had control issues and she had victim issues, so it may have worked out well. But I think it also might have been another version of hell.
I am rather obstinate and I might well have run out of the room without a word.
DFW
(54,328 posts)My wife is a very independent-minded German. She's open to everything EXCEPT other people making her decisions for her.
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)Your posts sound really "solid" and the joy of living in another country with a native is the best. No having to reinvent the wheel and life can be so much smoother and more pleasant. I'll bet the double wedding was a blast.
DFW
(54,328 posts)We met when we were 22--44 years ago. It has been quite a ride.
The wedding was fun for sure. A hippie Dutch friend of mine and I were doing guitar-violin duets, then me and my brother doing the same, plus people from places like Transylvania and Surinam.
I was the first American guy she had met who spoke passable German, and I had the luck that her current boyfriend was an obsessive-possessive type, and she was from a small farming village from the far northwest. Not such a great selection there, and I was sort of a welcome exotic change. She thought it would be a short nice summer fling. I thought I had met my partner for life, but I thought there was no way a nerd like me had a chance with a tall beauty like her. But then, I thought that if I continued with THAT attitude, I never WOULD have a chance with a woman like her. So, I ditched the stupid attitude and gained (eventually) a wife.
ONE of us had to end up living in the other's country. I asked my outfit if I could start a Düsseldorf office. They said, sure, why not? So, *poof* I was set.
WhiteTara
(29,699 posts)My beloved and I have been together for 33 years and I love our life together.
LeftInTX
(25,201 posts)Sounds like a Love Boat episode....