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First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 06:21 PM Aug 2018

If you could observe one historical event, what would it be...?

...I'm not talking about a time-machine where you'd actually be there; more like watching it on TV, but you could see it from any, or all, angles. I'd like to learn something definitive about a classic historical mystery, and I guess I'd inevitably set my TV to Dealey Plaza, Dallas, Texas on November 22, 1963. Whatever really happened, if I could just goddam *see* it, I'd be satisfied. How about the rest of you?

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If you could observe one historical event, what would it be...? (Original Post) First Speaker Aug 2018 OP
Oh, nothing tragic, that's for sure... hlthe2b Aug 2018 #1
'I was there...' 4139 Aug 2018 #3
don going to jail in a chain gang w the gop congress who conspired w russia. Crutchez_CuiBono Aug 2018 #2
+1. n/t rzemanfl Aug 2018 #5
When the Senate votes to convict Trump PJMcK Aug 2018 #4
The erection of the Tower of Babel. dchill Aug 2018 #6
The impeachment/resignation/funeral of Trump. Itchinjim Aug 2018 #7
Resurrection of Jesus exboyfil Aug 2018 #8
Mr. Peabody says "Hold my beer," dameatball Aug 2018 #9
The Cavern Club Cartoonist Aug 2018 #10
Gettysburg Address MaryMagdaline Aug 2018 #11
This would be a Buzz... 7wo7rees Aug 2018 #12
From launch to splashdown. n/t Harker Sep 2018 #18
Robert Lee surrendering. sinkingfeeling Aug 2018 #13
Yorktown Oct. 19 ,1781 when Cornwallis feigning sickness sent his 2nd to surrender British forces Historic NY Aug 2018 #14
I was in Yorktown on Thursday. Cool place to visit. n/t FSogol Sep 2018 #44
For me, nothing compares with seeing this traitortrump fiasco; empedocles Aug 2018 #15
Woodstock randr Aug 2018 #16
Exactly what I would do. n/t MicaelS Aug 2018 #17
1835..Charles Darwin observing and sketching birds and flora on the Galpagos Islands. Tikki Sep 2018 #19
Hitler's Last Hour Leith Sep 2018 #20
I highly recommend you watch the movie "Downfall." It came out in Upthevibe Sep 2018 #28
A flawless film. VOX Sep 2018 #45
I'm gonna go big here... The Big Bang TXPaganBanker Sep 2018 #21
42... Aristus Sep 2018 #23
but there was no free-standing photons qazplm135 Sep 2018 #35
The assassination of Julius Caesar. Aristus Sep 2018 #22
Hi Aristus...... Upthevibe Sep 2018 #29
I do. Aristus Sep 2018 #39
Runnymeade... 1215 PassingFair Sep 2018 #24
Trump's sentencing hearing. Yavin4 Sep 2018 #25
Poppy and/or other Reagan campaign people paying Iran to keep Americans hostage longer. unblock Sep 2018 #26
August 4, 1997 when Skynet became self-aware. Anon-C Sep 2018 #27
Dinosaurs Thyla Sep 2018 #30
November 22-25 1963 gopiscrap Sep 2018 #31
President Obama's... 3catwoman3 Sep 2018 #32
This message was self-deleted by its author Lebam in LA Sep 2018 #33
Not historical but trump stroking out on live tv would be fun Lebam in LA Sep 2018 #34
VJ Day, for selfish reasons. catbyte Sep 2018 #36
I'd like to see the surveillance footage of the tomb from which Jesus supposedly escaped FiveGoodMen Sep 2018 #37
I watched Apollo 11 launch Rustynaerduwell Sep 2018 #38
Cool! MLAA Sep 2018 #41
The building of the pyramids. NBachers Sep 2018 #40
The building of Machu Picchu would be pretty cool too. n/t FSogol Sep 2018 #43
Can I go along? The Lewis and Clark Expedition. FSogol Sep 2018 #42
The mass cavalry charge of the Australian Light Horse on Bersheeba, 10/31/1917. VOX Sep 2018 #46
Not necessarily the one and only but one that Upthevibe Sep 2018 #47
Explore Manahatta before it became Manhattan Donkees Sep 2018 #48

hlthe2b

(102,276 posts)
1. Oh, nothing tragic, that's for sure...
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 06:24 PM
Aug 2018

Maybe the landing on the moon (all angles, all pov of those involved, the emotion of all who watched and prayed).


Yes, I saw it when it happened, but I was very young and it is all a bit of a blur.

dchill

(38,492 posts)
6. The erection of the Tower of Babel.
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 06:33 PM
Aug 2018

Seriously, though, Dealey Plaza. November 22, 1963. Still feeling some kind of way about that.

Historic NY

(37,449 posts)
14. Yorktown Oct. 19 ,1781 when Cornwallis feigning sickness sent his 2nd to surrender British forces
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 07:55 PM
Aug 2018

to Gen George Washington. Indeed it was a "world turned upside down". I'd like to be with our Town Supervisor & former Town Clerk Gen. James Clinton, he's there on horseback.


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empedocles

(15,751 posts)
15. For me, nothing compares with seeing this traitortrump fiasco;
Fri Aug 31, 2018, 08:06 PM
Aug 2018

from all angles, all these inside or learned perspectives, the intriques, the unbelievable stupidity, the applied DSM casebook - hard to imagine anything like this.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
20. Hitler's Last Hour
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 12:38 AM
Sep 2018

which was probably in the bunker. And a few hours after that because I suspect that Russian soldiers took the bodies.

TXPaganBanker

(210 posts)
21. I'm gonna go big here... The Big Bang
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 12:45 AM
Sep 2018

I wanna see the answer to the mystery no one can solve. They can get close. They can get to a millionth of a second after. But I wanna see what's there before, and see the actual kick off of life, the universe and everything.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
35. but there was no free-standing photons
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 02:06 PM
Sep 2018

so I'm not sure you could have "seen" anything. Took 380K years for photons to break free and illuminate the universe.

Aristus

(66,369 posts)
22. The assassination of Julius Caesar.
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 12:46 AM
Sep 2018
"Et tu, Brute?" has become so lodged in cultural history, it's easy to overlook the fact that contemporary sources closest to the incident report that Caesar said nothing at all during the attack, and was more concerned with covering his legs, with their varicose veins, and his face, so no one would see it as he died, than saying anything dramatic.

I'd like to be able to set the record straight once and for all.

gopiscrap

(23,761 posts)
31. November 22-25 1963
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 02:01 PM
Sep 2018

I was in Germany at the time (5 years old) and not able to understand the English being spoken, but did pick up the German from the broadcasters, but most profound was viewing my parents sorrow and the enormity of the even. I would like to view that from an adult perspective

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catbyte

(34,386 posts)
36. VJ Day, for selfish reasons.
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 02:07 PM
Sep 2018

If my Marine Raider dad had gotten shipped off to Japan (he was actually waiting on the dock in San Diego to ship out) there's a really good chance I wouldn't be writing this right now. So either on the dock in San Diego to see the relief on my dad's face, or Times Square to see this:

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NBachers

(17,110 posts)
40. The building of the pyramids.
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 03:31 PM
Sep 2018

Dealy Plaza from all angles would be a second.

The Liberation of Paris, and the ensuing celebration, would he a hoot to attend.

FSogol

(45,485 posts)
42. Can I go along? The Lewis and Clark Expedition.
Sat Sep 1, 2018, 03:56 PM
Sep 2018

On edit, seeing the Celt settle Ireland around 500 BC would be pretty cool too.

VOX

(22,976 posts)
46. The mass cavalry charge of the Australian Light Horse on Bersheeba, 10/31/1917.
Sun Sep 2, 2018, 07:15 PM
Sep 2018

There is something about this event that I've found compelling for years. It's the ANZAC's victorious flip-side to their disaster at Gallipoli two years earlier.

http://www.awmlondon.gov.au/battles/beersheba
Beersheba The Charge of the 4th Light Horse, 1917
The Battle in Brief

The charge of the 4th Australian Light Horse at Beersheba late in the afternoon of 31 October 1917, is remembered as the last great cavalry charge. The assault on Beersheba began at dawn with the infantry divisions of the British XX Corps attacking from the south and south-west. Despite artillery and air support, neither the infantry attacks from the south, or the Anzac Mounted Division’s attack from the east had succeeded in capturing Beersheba by mid-afternoon.

With time running out for the Australians to capture Beersheba and its wells before dark, Lieutenant General Harry Chauvel, the Australian commander of the Desert Mounted Corps, ordered Brigadier General William Grant, commanding the 4th Light Horse Brigade, to make a mounted attack directly towards the town. Chauvel knew, from aerial photographs, that the Turkish trenches in front of the town were not protected by barbed wire. However, German bombing had forced the 4th Brigade into a scattered formation and it was not until 4.50 pm that they were in position. The Brigade assembled behind rising ground 6 kilometres south-east of Beersheba with the 4th Light Horse Regiment on the right, the 12th Light Horse Regiment on the left and the 11th Light Horse Regiment in reserve.

The Australian Light Horse was to be used purely as cavalry for the first time. Although they were not equipped with cavalry sabres, the Turks who faced the long bayonets held by the Australians did not consider there was much difference between a charge by cavalry and a charge by mounted infantry. The Light Horse moved off at the trot, and almost at once quickened to a gallop. As they came over the top of the ridge and looked down the long, gentle open slope to Beersheba, they were seen by the Turkish gunners, who opened fire with shrapnel. But the pace was too fast for the gunners. After three kilometres Turkish machine-guns opened fire from the flank, but they were detected and silenced by British artillery. The rifle fire from the Turkish trenches was wild and high as the Light Horse approached. The front trench and the main trench were jumped and some men dismounted and then attacked the Turks with rifle and bayonet from the rear. Some galloped ahead to seize the rear trenches, while other squadrons galloped straight into Beersheba.

Nearly all the wells of Beersheba were intact and further water was available from a storm that had filled the pools. The 4th and 12th Light Horse casualties were thirty-one killed and thirty-six wounded; they captured over 700 men. The capture of Beersheba meant that the Gaza-Beersheba line was turned. Gaza fell a week later and on 9 December 1917, the British troops entered Jerusalem.

Upthevibe

(8,051 posts)
47. Not necessarily the one and only but one that
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 01:44 AM
Sep 2018

comes to mind is MLK "I have a Dream" - The March on Washington -


Donkees

(31,406 posts)
48. Explore Manahatta before it became Manhattan
Mon Sep 3, 2018, 09:04 AM
Sep 2018


“After a decade of research (1999 – 2009), the Mannahatta Project at the Wildlife Conservation Society un-covered the original ecology of Manhattan, one of New York City’s five boroughs. The Welikia Project (2010 – 2013) goes beyond Mannahatta to encompass the entire city, discover its original ecology and compare it what we have today. Welikia means “my good home” in Lenape, the Native American language of the New York City region at the time of first contact with Europeans. The Welikia Project embraces the Bronx, Queens, Brooklyn, Staten Island and the waters in-between, while still serving up all we have learned about Mannahatta. Welikia provides the basis for all the people of New York to appreciate, conserve and re-invigorate the natural heritage of their city not matter which borough they live in.”

This is an extraordinarily visual way to walk the path of purpose and see the swamps and forests and paths gradually change and become home of the Empire State Building and every place we know in New York City. For a place that to me can seem unconnected to simple living things to be seen as a wild place of nature just like everywhere else in the world is powerful.

http://quixoteconsulting.com/Blog/2011/02/15/manhattan-or-manahatta-%E2%80%93-sleuthing-out-what-came-before/
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