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(47,487 posts)
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 02:45 PM Jan 2019

Fiber Optics: Wool Lovers Battle Animal-Rights Crowd Over Sheep Shearing

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To the dismay of wool proponents who tout their eco-friendly credentials, they have landed on the wrong side of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals. The animal-rights group recently erected billboards in Boston and New York’s Times Square that display a nude picture of actress Alicia Silverstone with the phrase “Leave Wool Behind” across her backside.

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Lucky Brand stopped using the antiwool tag after speaking with some critics, said Chief Executive Carlos Alberini. “It was never our intention to offend anyone with this hangtag,” he said. After clothing retailer Duluth Trading Co. recently advertised a fleece-lined shirt with the tagline, “No smelly animal fur here, just soft, furnace-warm 200-gram polyester fleece,” retribution was swift.

“I beg of you, please stop throwing wool under the bus,” Ms. Parkes wrote in an Instagram post. “You know as well as I do that commercial wool has no scent at all, and that it comes from a living animal who goes on living a very good life,” said the 49-year-old who lives in Portland, Maine. Fleece is just plastic and isn’t biodegradable, she said. The post drew thousands of supporters, and an about-face from Duluth Trading. The company has taken antiwool statements out of future catalogs after hearing concerns, said a spokeswoman. “We have a deep appreciation of the wool industry,” she said. December’s catalog, she said, was a “celebration of wool.”

At the heart of the debate is whether shearing helps or hurts sheep. PETA and the Humane Society of the U.S. say sheep farming for wool is inhumane, and PETA cited undercover videos the organization took of bloody shearing on big sheep farms in Australia. The wool community says a big part of its problem is small U.S. farms are taking the fall for rougher treatment and controversial practices employed by a few large wool producers.

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Every so often, a wool sheep is found that hasn’t been sheared for years, emerging from a cave or a remote mountain pass looking like a bulbous duster on spindly legs. Lucky Brand’s tag pictured Shrek, a merino wool sheep found in a New Zealand cave that became famous in 2004 for evading shearing for six years. Weighed down by too much wool, sheep can suffer heat stress, inability to feed babies, lack of vision and maggot infestation, said Susan Myers, president of the American Association of Small Ruminant Practitioners.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/fiber-optics-wool-lovers-battle-animal-rights-crowd-over-sheep-shearing-11546884830 (paid subscription)

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Fiber Optics: Wool Lovers Battle Animal-Rights Crowd Over Sheep Shearing (Original Post) question everything Jan 2019 OP
Oh, FFS. Squinch Jan 2019 #1
Why do you say this? question everything Jan 2019 #16
No. I disagree that the "anti shearing" faction warrants a wsj article. Squinch Jan 2019 #17
Wool is itchy as shit. Demovictory9 Jan 2019 #2
That's why you wear a layer under it...cotton works best for me... hlthe2b Jan 2019 #4
Merino wool is not itchy at all! I can attest to this. It's amazing. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2019 #6
I have a drop-dead gorgeous merino wool jacket from Brooks Brothers. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2019 #8
I'll bet it's gorgeous! And incredibly soft too. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2019 #9
The fabric was woven in Italy. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2019 #10
You were damned lucky! Wow. Wear it with joy! n/t CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2019 #11
I can wear it to the fanciest-schmanciest meetings and be the mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2019 #12
I believe that! Do you have a photo you could post? I'd love to see it on you. CaliforniaPeggy Jan 2019 #13
It's just a generic glen plaid jacket. I'll see if I can find something similar. mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2019 #14
As one who has tried it, it is not easy to sheer sheep, but those who do so are experts.... hlthe2b Jan 2019 #3
Can you handle paradichlorobenzene? mahatmakanejeeves Jan 2019 #7
We're not supposed to wear wool now? Bayard Jan 2019 #5
Poly fleece is helping destroy our environment..... KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2019 #15
PETA is wrong! frogmarch Jan 2019 #18
wow! 89 pounds of wool? orleans Jan 2019 #19

question everything

(47,487 posts)
16. Why do you say this?
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 09:17 PM
Jan 2019

Do you disagree with the notion that shearing sheep is beneficial for them? Even if you do not like wool, or allergic to it, this should not come at the expense of sheep.

https://www.cnn.com/2015/09/03/asia/sheep-record-wool-shearer/index.html

The RSPCA said sheep like Chris, a Merino that are bred especially for their wool, need to be shorn regularly or they can have trouble going to the bathroom and can develop serious medical issues like flystrike or infection.


Squinch

(50,955 posts)
17. No. I disagree that the "anti shearing" faction warrants a wsj article.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 11:12 PM
Jan 2019

Its one of those loony ideas that people on the right would point to to say animal rights advocates have gone too far when actually it's three guys in a basement with a manifesto.

ETA: I just read post 5 here.

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,637 posts)
13. I believe that! Do you have a photo you could post? I'd love to see it on you.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 05:17 PM
Jan 2019

No worries if you don't, though.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
14. It's just a generic glen plaid jacket. I'll see if I can find something similar.
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 05:26 PM
Jan 2019

Hold on.

Nah, I can't come up with anything quite like it. Just imagine a Wall Street, old money, Ivy League, private club look, that sort of thing. Never out of style. Like that.

There's a small thrift store near me that gets really nice stuff all the time. Recently, it must have happened that someone old died and all his things were donated. Either that, or he retired, and all his stuff got donated. Totally excellent tailoring, workmanship, and material in all his suits. Every one of them was way too big for me. I need to be trimming my collection too, so I didn't get any. They would have all required costly alteration.

The merino wool jacket is bigger than I ordinarily wear, but it is a winter item, so I wear a sweater underneath. The net result: perfect fit.

I don't go for the skinny hipster look.

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I have it!

Just imagine what this guy would wear:

Well-Manicured Man

That's the best description I can come up with.

hlthe2b

(102,292 posts)
3. As one who has tried it, it is not easy to sheer sheep, but those who do so are experts....
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 03:24 PM
Jan 2019

I would have a hard time imagining small sheep facilities, who tend to live with their animals adjacent, are anything but compassionate in handling them. That has certainly been my experience, however limited.

I love wool, but sadly, after my third intense efforts to rid myself of clothing moths over the past decade, (and yes, doing EVERTHING recommended with the exception of the old time highly toxic napthalene moth balls), I don't tend to buy wool anymore. But, I surely appreciate it.

Be kind to sheep, but support the industry!

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,489 posts)
7. Can you handle paradichlorobenzene?
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 04:43 PM
Jan 2019

That's what I use. Whenever I smell paradichlorobenzene, I am reminded of my grandmother. She stored all her wool stuff with it.

I have lots of wool clothes. I buy them secondhand as well. I do see holes on occasion. I know how to sew.

Bayard

(22,099 posts)
5. We're not supposed to wear wool now?
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 03:49 PM
Jan 2019

I think PETA goes overboard......no pets, no meat, etc. They do some good work in regards to animal testing.

Anyone I've ever known that had sheep gave them quite humane treatment. Of course, those weren't big sheep ranches.

Love my wool sweaters and socks!

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,492 posts)
15. Poly fleece is helping destroy our environment.....
Sat Jan 12, 2019, 07:13 PM
Jan 2019

with microscopic particles from washing machines dumping particles in our streams. The stuff kills fish and other aquatic beings. Our oceans are slowly being polluted with this horrible crap.

This sounds to me like some people are taking money (knowingly or not) from big oil interests that wants everything made of synthetics. I smell Koch in the air!.....

Merino wool is expensive but worth the investment if one takes good care of their garments. No itch at all, and I have sensitive skin. The winter socks are to die for, especially for us older folks.

Cedar oil spray keeps moths away. Just take some wood shavings (preferably cedar), spray them with cedar oil, stuff them into an old sock and hang them in your closets. Smells good too! Just re-spry the bags every few months to keep them effective.

PETA can kiss my wool-covered behind......... ..........

frogmarch

(12,154 posts)
18. PETA is wrong!
Sun Jan 13, 2019, 12:40 AM
Jan 2019

Sheep can suffer if their wool gets too thick.

Pictures at the link of a sheep with heavy wool being shorn. Poor thing must have suffered under that thick coat.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/robstott/this-woolly-sheep-got-a-fabulous-makeover-and-it-broke-a-wor

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