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GO RAMS - FUCK FUCK FUCK THE PATRIOTS (Original Post) Eliot Rosewater Feb 2019 OP
K&R calguy Feb 2019 #1
It's a pity both teams can't lose Clash City Rocker Feb 2019 #2
the pats beat my rams in 2002. so fuck em. Kurt V. Feb 2019 #3
I just don't understand - I consider the Rams a good team...they also just happen to be lucky to asiliveandbreathe Feb 2019 #4
It's never too late to give up football. Harker Feb 2019 #5
Go Rams Gothmog Feb 2019 #6
The Rams owner, Kroenke is rabid republican while Kraft is a lifelong Dem who developed a friendship CentralMass Feb 2019 #7
NO. Kraft sucks up to Murdoch and Trump. He's a billionaire oligarch EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #10
Yes, Kraft is a life long democrat. I can site a 3rd or 4th reference if you would like. CentralMass Feb 2019 #11
Kraft just praised Trump AND Murdoch EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #12
And I think he is an idiot for doing so. However it does not change my CentralMass Feb 2019 #15
Sorry, decent men don't defend autocrats EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #20
That says everything about what kind of person Kraft. Supporting a racist like Trump makes him one. rockfordfile Feb 2019 #22
Where as Kroenke throws low income tenants out of properties he buys and CentralMass Feb 2019 #25
Also EndGOPPropaganda Feb 2019 #13
Go Pats Submariner Feb 2019 #8
+1 CentralMass Feb 2019 #9
+1 Croney Feb 2019 #14
Tom Brady GOAT! jpak Feb 2019 #16
+1 CentralMass Feb 2019 #18
Nope rockfordfile Feb 2019 #21
Damn right tymorial Feb 2019 #27
Go Pats. Fla Dem Feb 2019 #17
I lived in L.A. when the Rams were the original Los Angeles Rams. So, yes, GO RAMS! mnhtnbb Feb 2019 #19
They had their chances but not to be, Cooks dropping the touchdown pass was big. jalan48 Feb 2019 #23
It's in the bible Ptah Feb 2019 #24
I too am disgusted by Kraft tymorial Feb 2019 #26
I live in New England, but... zanana1 Feb 2019 #28

Clash City Rocker

(3,398 posts)
2. It's a pity both teams can't lose
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 03:05 PM
Feb 2019

As a lifetime 49ers fan, I can’t stand the Rams, plus they only got to the Super Bowl because of completely incompetent officiating, and I would hate to see that rewarded. But I’m also sick to death of the Patriots getting here constantly, and their owner’s a Trump zombie. There is no result of this game that would make me happy. I’m not sure it’s even worth watching.

Kurt V.

(5,624 posts)
3. the pats beat my rams in 2002. so fuck em.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 03:07 PM
Feb 2019

then the rams left my city in an obvious money grab. so fuck em.
so there you have it.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
4. I just don't understand - I consider the Rams a good team...they also just happen to be lucky to
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 03:14 PM
Feb 2019

be playing in the 2019 Super bowl against the GOAT!.....Goff will be a better QB because of it..and the Rams for that matter.....

Coaches on both sides need NOT make stupid calls...and the refs need to do their job - NOT throw a game....

AFA Kraft and the POS in the WH...as a life long PATS fan - I really don't give a chit....I will NOT let my sports be tainted by politics...

They don't call us Titletown for nuthin''' wicked great teams over many, many, years.....We invite ALL to Boston Garden (screw TD Garden name) - Celts and Bruins games are always fun - or Fenway Park - oh, World Series Champs 2018 - Gillette Stadium, formerly Foxboro Stadium, formally Sullivan Stadium - nuff said...

Harker

(14,030 posts)
5. It's never too late to give up football.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 03:21 PM
Feb 2019

I'm football free for years now.

My recovery began when a former girlfriend described it as a game of "I have the meat... I'm taking it home... and you can't have it."

Suddenly, I was offered a new perspective.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
7. The Rams owner, Kroenke is rabid republican while Kraft is a lifelong Dem who developed a friendship
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 03:28 PM
Feb 2019

with trump when trump showed him kindness during his wifes battle with cancer.

https://www.businessinsider.com/patriots-owner-robert-kraft-loyal-to-donald-trump-2017-1
"For Kraft especially, the relationship seems puzzling on the surface to many since Kraft is a life-long Democrat and donated to President Barack Obama's campaigns."

https://www.kgw.com/mobile/article/news/nation-world/robert-kraft-didnt-hesitate-a-minute-when-lending-plane-to-parkland-students/507-532403597
"Robert Kraft 'didn't hesitate a minute' when lending plane to Parkland students
When retired astronaut Mark Kelly called
Kraft to ask for a plane to take wounded kids and their familes to the March For Our Lives, he didn't hesitate to help."

"Kraft finds himself in a unique position because although he’s a lifelong Democrat, he also counts President Trump among his personal friends. He didn't mince words, however, as he expressed his displeasure with the ongoing disputes over gun control and the accompanying political gridlock in addressing the matter.

“I have a big problem with what’s going on in Washington and the divisiveness, and no one’s listening to one another"

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
10. NO. Kraft sucks up to Murdoch and Trump. He's a billionaire oligarch
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 03:37 PM
Feb 2019

I don’t know what Kraft’s game is with Obama, but there are two kinds of people in America today: those who side with the billionaires and oligarchs that run rightwing media and bought the GOP, and everyone else.

Kraft is a billionaire oligarch— that means he sides with Republicans. I’m willing to welcome him back, but he must strongly disavow Trump and Murdoch — not just complain about “bothsides” division.




https://www.boston.com/sports/new-england-patriots/2019/02/01/robert-kraft-donald-trump-rupert-murdoch-fox-news-video

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
11. Yes, Kraft is a life long democrat. I can site a 3rd or 4th reference if you would like.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 03:49 PM
Feb 2019

While I can not stomach Krafts association with tRump he is the sum of his parts which include the many charitable acts that he and his families foundations have contributed to.

Including flying the Parkland Florida students and families to the the March For Your Lives Rally on the Patriots Jet at the cost of around a $ 1 million dollars.

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
12. Kraft just praised Trump AND Murdoch
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 03:53 PM
Feb 2019

I’m glad Kraft is helping put out the fires, but he’s backing the arsonists.

Kraft helped elect Trump and he backs Fox.
Just those two things had a bigger effect on getting schoolchildren killed (Yes, Murdoch helps gets kids killed) than any of the great stuff he did to counterbalance it at Parkland.

This is a national emergency on the scale of 1930s Germany. Kraft is backing the wanna be autocrat. That’s a threat to America. I’m sorry to be so blunt but it is necessary.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
15. And I think he is an idiot for doing so. However it does not change my
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 04:05 PM
Feb 2019

opinion that on balance he is a decent man.

Make a case for the Rams owner.




EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
20. Sorry, decent men don't defend autocrats
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 09:41 PM
Feb 2019

Even if they are friendly people and the autocrats can make them money.

I’m glad you or your people have a good personal relationship with Kraft.

But Kraft is a cancer on America, like every other billionaire who supports Trump and Murdoch. As much as he has done for the Pats.

On a related note: Deflategate is an allegory for how the GOP screws America.
A bunch of billionaires (NFL owners) led by an corrupt apparatchik (Goodell), paid by the billionaires, used their state media (ESPN) to amplify an exaggerated story and smear their union employee (Brady). Then the billionaires used their money to commission a BS report (from Exponent, Paul Weiss) and with Republican lawyers and judges got a decision that helped the billionaires and hurt the employee. And the masses all believe the billionaires’ lies.

Replace with:
Koch network
McConnell
Fox
Average workers
Citizens United, Judicial Watch, AEI
Republican lawyers and judges

And it’s basically the same story.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
22. That says everything about what kind of person Kraft. Supporting a racist like Trump makes him one.
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 10:58 PM
Feb 2019

Trump is a racist and a traitor to our country.

CentralMass

(15,265 posts)
25. Where as Kroenke throws low income tenants out of properties he buys and
Mon Feb 4, 2019, 07:00 PM
Feb 2019

develops and allowed one of executives to hire Russian spy Maria Butina to help him create a television show starring Vladimir Putin as a conservation-minded outdoorsman.
https://fox2now.com/2016/10/27/residents-of-texas-ranch-kicked-to-the-curb-by-new-land-owner-stan-kroenke/

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100211766976

EndGOPPropaganda

(1,117 posts)
13. Also
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 03:58 PM
Feb 2019

I was/am a huge Pats fan, and I am having trouble with the Kraft/Trump/Murdoch alliance.

I prefer to think about Brady coming around due to Giselle — and his time with Moss. Better days. I wish the NFL was not run by a bunch of billionaire oligarchs.
At least Randy Moss made some dollars from Kraft.

rockfordfile

(8,704 posts)
21. Nope
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 10:49 PM
Feb 2019

There are QBs in the 90s, 80s, and 70s that I would take over Tom Brady with these rules today. He's a good QB, but he's also a right-wing racist pos.

mnhtnbb

(31,399 posts)
19. I lived in L.A. when the Rams were the original Los Angeles Rams. So, yes, GO RAMS!
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 05:18 PM
Feb 2019

I would love nothing more than to see Brady handed his a$$ tonight, or in other words, SACKED time after time after time. Intercepted would be good, too.

Ptah

(33,034 posts)
24. It's in the bible
Sun Feb 3, 2019, 11:08 PM
Feb 2019
Daniel 8

5 As I was thinking about this, suddenly a GOAT with a prominent horn between its eyes came from the west, crossing the whole earth without touching the ground. 6 It came toward the two-horned ram I had seen standing beside the canal and charged at it in great rage. 7 I saw it attack the ram furiously, striking the ram and shattering its two horns. The ram was powerless to stand against it; the GOAT knocked it to the ground and trampled on it, and none could rescue the ram from its power. 8 The GOAT became very great, but at the height of its power the large horn was broken off, and in its place four prominent horns grew up toward the four winds of heaven.

zanana1

(6,124 posts)
28. I live in New England, but...
Tue Feb 5, 2019, 03:02 PM
Feb 2019

I understand how hard it is to see your team lose. It's tragic. I hope you recover soon.

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